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Reply #15 - May 16th, 2007 at 1:19pm
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Re: iron sight set up for red 25 ring 200 yd targe
Reply #16 - May 16th, 2007 at 3:54pm
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That will work but there are a few problems. One it is you are stuck with one size fits all which you can do by changing the size of your rear fixed aprature. If the light is bright one day and cloudy the next you are not going to be getting the same benifit. The other is head position and alignment of the tape hole and sights. I think you will be moving your head all over the place. Plus glasses ussally are not great when shooting because you look through close to the frames which is the worst part of the glass. I have something like this for pistol and it works great, but for rifle I am a little sceptical.
  
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Reply #17 - May 16th, 2007 at 7:54pm
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I've used the pinhole aperture on my glasses for many years, with a Hadley-style variable aperture on a rotating disc. Works well for both rifle and pistol, for me. Takes a little care in positioning the attachment, but the increased visual acuity and apparent flattening of the focal plane is noticeable. For a higher-quality truly variable pinhole aperture, Merit makes an iris-type adjustable aperture with a suction cup for the glasses. A pin-hole aperture close to the eye has long been a holistic remedy for nearsightedness/myopia.

I agree with Boats about bigger (aperture) is usually better, especially for long strings where shooter's eye fatigue becomes a major factor.
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Re: iron sight set up for red 25 ring 200 yd targe
Reply #18 - May 17th, 2007 at 6:03am
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The Merit eyglass arputure works very well.  I use on when shooting my Trapdoor in matches. Under the rules you can't alter the sights and have to use the Arsenal Blade front sight.

It's not as good as a proper set of match sights with adjustable arputures front and rear.

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Re: iron sight set up for red 25 ring 200 yd targe
Reply #19 - May 17th, 2007 at 6:59am
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boats wrote on May 15th, 2007 at 9:49pm:
Jerry

It's not important for the bullseye to be sharp. It does have to be in the center.  The way to go is to have large arpitures F & R allowing plenty of brightness, Sharp is overrated. It's just not required for good iron sight scores.

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RIGHT ON!  When I was a kid my dad took me to a .22 match held at the college where he taught (put on by AFROTC).  We used Remmington 514T's with peep sights front and rear.  Even though I forgot my glasses (20:400) the officer said to just center that blur of a target in the blur of the front sight in the blur of the rear sight.  I won a turkey!  (Frozen of course)

  

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Re: iron sight set up for red 25 ring 200 yd targe
Reply #20 - May 18th, 2007 at 12:14am
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Cat,

At the ROTC turkey shoot I was at years ago, we shot one five bull target normal, and one target that we turned backwards - I shot a better score (and won a turkey) on the one where I couldn't see the bullseyes - just hung it the same, and concentrated on sight alignment.

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Reply #21 - May 18th, 2007 at 9:15am
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Alan, that is an old target shooter's trick, and its purpose was to reveal exactly what you were concentrating upon, that is, sight alignment (with each other) and trigger squeeze. An experienced coach can tell, by the shape and position of the resulting group, where and how the shooter needs to correct his technique. I personally am not any kind of a coach but was fortunate enough to have had a good one in college, and saw him correct many flaws of mine and my fellow teammates merely by analyzing groups fired in this way. It works.
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Reply #22 - May 18th, 2007 at 3:05pm
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Thank's for all the different views. I had a good test day at Modesto yesterday and found 2 options that worked well for me. JerryW
  
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Reply #23 - May 18th, 2007 at 3:11pm
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And they are?????  Huh
  
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Re: iron sight set up for red 25 ring 200 yd targe
Reply #24 - May 20th, 2007 at 1:08pm
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A diopter front, iris rear, diopter rear were the two best looking note I say looking need range time. lso a merit rear with my olymoic front with different sized plastic circles needs more tests. Thank you all again. JerryW
  
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Reply #25 - May 20th, 2007 at 5:23pm
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For a front aperture I normally prefer a tinted plastic insert, like the ones that come in the selection with a new Lyman 17A, with the hole reamed out further, but these aren't legal in some matches. Managed to find a card with larger metal apertures, made by Ron Long as I recall, that were a big improvement over the Lyman steel apertures, but I still like the plastic ones better. The Ron Long aperture card contained at least two that were larger than the largest Lyman ones, and that was what I needed.
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