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Any info on gunsmith A.L. Hartung?
May 10th, 2006 at 11:25pm
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Hello folks. I'm new to this forum, and looking into joining ASSRA. I'm trying to get any info that I can, on the builder of a rifle that I recently stumbled into; I've included a recent photo of it, which I took during a recent trip back to PA. It was great fun, putting it back to it's intended use; shooting groundhogs!

The rifle is based on a Sharps Borchardt action. It has a heavy 26" barrel, and chambered in .219 Zipper Improved. The barrel is marked "A.L. Hartung Pomeroy, O."
Pomeroy, is in eastern Ohio. The scope is a 10X 2" Unertl. The trigger is very good, and overall workmanship is above average.

Looks to be a classic eastern/mid-atlantic states 'chuck rifle, from the 50's or 60's. I'm in the process of fire-forming brass. It shoots quite well, even while forming the brass.

Any info on Mr. Hartung, will be greatly appreciated.

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Jeff
  
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Re: Any info on gunsmith A.L. Hartung?
Reply #1 - May 11th, 2006 at 12:55am
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akjeff;
Have you looked at ".22 Caliber Varmint Rifles" or "Woodchucks and Woodchuck Rifles" by Landis? He covers quite a number of gunsmiths of the era.

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Reply #2 - May 11th, 2006 at 6:55am
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Welcome to the ASSRA website.  Congratulations on bringing back a great rifle.  I personally think we should give fair due to the classic singleshot varmint rifles as part of our legitimate history.  I'd suggest that the super accurate single shot varmint rifles were one of the direct ancestors to modern bench rest competition and strongly influenced the development of modern high power rifle optics.   

While most of our competition is oriented to schuetzen style and Creedmoor-type long range, most of us also have interests in other sporting uses of our single shots as well.  While we do not see much ongoing competition with the "varmint calibrers"; as was discussed a bit in another thread,  when loaded with plain-based lead bullets and appropriate reduced loads your rifle would be welcome at many of our matches.

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Reply #3 - May 11th, 2006 at 7:23am
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akjeff;
            I have information on Albert Hartung, he lived and died in Pomeroy, Ohio where I went to high school,about two miles from where I live. Hartung was the local gunsmith-gunmaker, he used a lot of Mossberg barrels plus making barrels with his own rifling machine. the .219 Zipper was one of his favorite cartridges.
PS  -  if you have any questions about Hartung  I'll be glad to try and answer them--take good care of the Borchardt----leadball
  
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Reply #4 - May 11th, 2006 at 7:52am
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Boy i like them boocarts myself,thats a nice one . i have one sorta like it in reg. zipper. be a little lean working up imp. loads,baby is hot. a man needs a good kill treat yourself when you can. Tim got my      r2 lovell boocart,what a trade that was. have fun ben.  Grin Grin Grin Grin
  
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Reply #5 - May 11th, 2006 at 9:57am
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Thank you one and all! 

leadball, I've sent you a PM, thank you very much!

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Reply #6 - Jul 3rd, 2006 at 9:48pm
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I'd just like say that the good Mr. Hartung has built a fine shooting rifle. The early stages of load developement is yeilding 5 shot groups in the .6" to .8" range. I'm confident that with a little tweeking, it will only get better. Definitely a keeper.

Leadball, if you see this, I'm very interested in any info on Mr. Hartung, that you have to offer.

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Jeff
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 6th, 2006 at 7:35pm
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akjeff;
            Ebersbachs Hardware store was a meeting place on Sat. night in Pomeroy OH, Mr Hartung would be at the center of converstation, always about rifles. This was back in the late 40's & early 50's, Mr Hartung talked about such things as .219 Zippers, 22 Varmiters. & .219 Wasp, we had no knowledge of these calbiers but we listened because Albert Hartung was THE rifle man for a hundred miles in any direction.
             The .219 Zipper was a favorite. many 22rimfires with Mossberg barrels,  many Mausers and Springfields and I have been told [never seen] that he made about 12 custom shotguns. The singleshots were mostly High Walls in centerfire and Stevens 44 was his favorite with 22rimfire. There are a few men left in the county that knew Albert much better, I knew him through my father because they both loved rabbit dogs. if you wanted Mr Hartung to work on your rifle, you started talking to him about rabbit dogs.    leadball
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 7th, 2006 at 1:24am
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leadball,

Many thanks for responding. I love to hear such things. It elevates shooting and hunting with, old firearms, to a whole new level, when you learn even a little bit about it's builder and/or former owner(s). I'm certainly tickled to be one of the,hopefully, many shooters who get to enjoy this fine rifle. It's a real keeper, and it'll be a while before it winds up in another's gun safe!

I intend to visit Pomeroy, the next time I go see mom in western PA. It's probably only a 2hr drive, or so, from where I was born and raised. How it got to Alaska is, so far, a mystery to me.

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Jeff
  
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