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screwloose
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CHECKERING
Mar 18th, 2006 at 1:10pm
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I have rifles I have restocked and haven't finished waiting for checkering. I am finaly ready to try it. What did lines per inch Winchester & Sharps checkering use?
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Tom
  
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ken_hurst
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Reply #1 - Mar 20th, 2006 at 2:33pm
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LPI depends on how dense the wood is.  Eng. walnut will handle up to 26 LPI if it is from Ca. rather than England. American black walnut will generally speaking will also handle 22 to 24 LPI IF it is from an area where there isn't much rain fall. Softer walnuts such as claro usually doesn't accept fine LPI as it tends to fuzz due to its soft nature.    FWIW,     Ken
  
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MCG
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Reply #2 - Mar 20th, 2006 at 3:23pm
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Tom, I'm not sure if I understand you or not, but I much prefer to have the finish completed on the gun before I checker it. That makes me really carefull not to have overruns

What Ken said if true for the most part as far as lpi goes, but each piece of wood must be judged on its own merit. I've checkered claro that was very poor (should have been firewood) and wouldn't hold diamonds to some that wasn't to bad. The same goes for American (black) walnut, although it generally will hold 22 lpi very well. Then we have Juglans Regia (aka Turkish walnut, English walnut, French walnut etc.). This wood comes in varying flavors from junk to wonderful. For example: I just finished checkering a Wesson buttstock and forend stocked with California english at 28 lpi and had no problems at all. OTOH, I remember a high priced piece of Turkish was a nightmare to checker.

Doug
  
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ken_hurst
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Reply #3 - Mar 20th, 2006 at 4:11pm
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Listen to Doug ----- he's a wizz at that checkering stuff. Better yet, let him do it if you want a pro. job.   Ken
  
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screwloose
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Reply #4 - Mar 20th, 2006 at 6:57pm
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Thanks a lot. I hadn't even considered the density of the wood. I have this thing where I would like to say I did it myselfe. I will practice on a piece of wood the original stock blank was cut from. I have 6' x 8"x 3" of it.If I wind up with anything worth sharing I will take pictures. 
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JDSteele
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Reply #5 - Mar 20th, 2006 at 10:13pm
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I personally prefer to space my checkering @ 22 LPI, and then deepen with a carbide Pointer-Long cutter mounted in a see-thru adjustable Brownell handle. With my somewhat poor spacing technique, the 22-LPI tool actually ends up cutting about 23 LPI and sometimes more. I also use a veiner in the tight places, and I make sure each line is STRAIGHT before spacing the next. A 90-degree bent riffler in the fine cut is a good tool for the final polish, and can be a lifesaver with fuzzy wood. Also many checkerers are now using Super Glue to stabilize problem woods as well as to strengthen the diamonds. Simply flow the liquid into the checkering and brush out the excess with a toothbrush or similar, being careful to not let the glue attack the bristles, then go back over it with the tools as necessary after drying.

I strongly suggest that you start with about 20 LPI and practice on a finished piece such as an old stock. An old Mauser stock is best IMO since they were made from juglans regia and will respond well to the tools, cutting very cleanly and so allowing you to concentrate upon your technique instead of trying to fight a softer wood. And BTW 20 LPI is about what most of the older rifles had, at least most of the ones I've owned. Also most of the old checkering seems to have the 3:1 length-to-width diamond ratio, but for a somewhat more pleasing look I prefer the 3.5:1 ratio.

Checkering is a subject unto itself and IMO you can't do better than to consult Monte Kennedy's great book Checkering and Carving of Gunstocks. I particularly like the various Dale Goens patterns and have used them extensively in my own stockwork.
Good luck, Joe
  
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Cknerr
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Reply #6 - Mar 21st, 2006 at 1:30pm
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I use to use a wood preserve found at most hardware stores. When I found out it's acetone with a whole lot of Plexiglas or Lexan melted into it, I made my own. Whether it is lexan or Plexiglas, I can never remember which one it is. Let it soak in a LITTLE, then wipe off and let the acetone evaporate. 

The superglue does a better job, but I have never been able to get the job done without sticking a brush, paper/cloth towel, etc. to the wood. Then I have a mess to clean up before refinishing. Even tried blowing it around with my breathe... super glue + slobber = a real mess! The advice to completely finish your stock is correct. If you didn't, the lines in your pattern would need re-cutting. Re-cutting = probably messing up a line or two and certainly doubling the amount of work you do.

Very shortly I will have all of Monty Kennedy's' book scanned. Unfortunatley, I seem to be slowly destroying it as it is scanned. The sacrifice is worth it though. I wanted it for the patterns. I make an AutoCad drawing over it that I can quickly and easily adjust to fit. If there is a pattern you want, let me know and I can email it to you as a tiff/jpeg/bmp file. ...and hopefully I am not in trouble with copyright laws.

Take care and good luck,
Chris
  
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