Hello Guys

I' love to hear what your favourite c/f cartridges are for the small (cadet 12/15 etc) size Martinis, why and what use they are put to eg hunting, target, plinking etc.

Cheers - Foster

.310 Greener (.310 Cadet)....of course. All round fun.

One almost completed in 256 Win Mag, one in process in 225 Win. My friend George the Knifemaker has Cadets in Hornet, Mashburn Bee, 25-35 Ackley Improved, 30 Herrett, 357 Herrett, 30-30 and 44 Mag. He wants to build one in Improved Zipper or Wasp.

I've thought seriously about 223 Rem with a Snapp rimless extractor but have heard mixed reviews of this conversion. Also thought about a switch-bbl in 225 Win, 7-30 Waters and 35/30-30 or some such.
Good luck, Joe

Have a Model 12 in 17 Javelina, a 'Cadet' in 218 Mashburn Bee and an orginal 'Cadet' in 310. They are all a blast to shoot.

I have a cased Greener Sharpshooter Rifle in .310 and it shoots better than I do.  If you want to see what a .310 can do read "The Plater Incident" at the 1908 Olympics ( (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)). 80 shots at 50 and 100 yds in gust and rain for a 391 out of 400 in less than 30 minutes.

I've got 2 cadets also. 1 in 218 Mashburn and a 357 mag. Both are fun little rifles.

I have Martini's in 22WRM, 17 Ack Hornet, 17/222 Rimmed, 218 Mashburn Bee, 222 Rimmed, 310 Cadet and 32/20 Win. 

The best conversion I've seen is a 12/15 in 5.6x50 Mag fitted with a rimless extractor and topped with a 3.5-10x Leupold.

Martininut, I'm comtemplating a 223 Cadet with Snapp extractor but have heard that the 223 cartridge sometimes has sticky extraction in the Cadet. Can you provide further info?
TIA, Joe

Craig,

Are you saying the Snapp extractor only extracts the case 1/3 of the way?

Craig, many thanks for the feedback on the Snapp extractor. I like an ejecting Martini and this info is just what I needed to make my decision. Could you please supply contact info for the fellow who makes the side-hinged one?
Thanks again, Joe

I'm not complaining about Mr. Snapp's extractor.....I love my little .223.  It is giving me under an inch at 100 with just normal Winchester 55grn ball ammo.  When she gets back from the stock finisher, I'll try some of the match stuff!

Who can you recommend for RF to CF conversion of a 22 LR action?

Do you have contact innformation for Jim?

thanks,

Allen

Thank  you for the help

I shoot a 17 Ackley Bee, 218 Bee, 20 Raven (20 VT rimmed & blown) and a 35-30/30, all on Cadet actions.  All perform very well; the 20 Raven get a little "stickly" with heavy loads, but I am shhoting a 32 gr. bullet at around 3750 fps with it.

I have four small frame Martinis: 2 .22 rimfire (12/15 and a Mod 13 TD). a K-Hornet, and a .218 Bee.   The K- Hornet and the Bee both could be loaded with cast bullets for small game hunting.  However, I do not cast and have not been able to find any supplier of .22 cast bullets so I cannot try these loads.  Had the same problem with the 25-20 WCF and 25-20SS that I owned - no suitable bullets.

Current chamberings include 17 Squirrel, 17 Ackley Bee, 22K Hornet, 218 Mashburn, 222 Rimmed, 225 Win, and 357Mag. Have actions and barrels for a 256Mag, 6x222R, and 17 Ackley Hornet but unfortunately my desires for these 3 are overcome by my lack of funding  . Just a minor inconvenience I'm working on.

Shame, shame, shame... .

Actually, you have more than enough reason to start casting bullets. Be absolutely independent from any fickle supplies. All you need is a casting pot, bullet mould for each caliber you need, and some wheelweights and you are in business. Look at my recent series on cast bullets in the recent Single Shot Rifle Journals. I give you many tips for gettting started casting bullets "Without  Selling the Farm". It acutally becomes a secondary hobby.

Many years ago when linotype was both a alloy and a machine, I was employed as a printers devil.  One of my duties was to spend many a Saturday morning casting several tons of linotype slugs back into pigs to feed the machinery of a free press.  I have the scars to prove it.  No offence to hobby casters, but it is not something I want to do.  I am told that casting small bullets is a pain and that there is some difficulty in getting a good cast.  I can understand that only too well.  Rather than start a new hobby, I am willing to purchase a supply from someone who has them at a fair price. No offence intended to all the hobby casters out there, but I feel no shame either.  Had I known at the time that the stuff might be worth something, I would have tucked a couple of tons aside for future use.  I did learn to read up-side-down and backwords (read the lead) which has proved very handy in later years so the job wasn't all bad.  2520

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Working a deal on a 12-15 in 7-30 Waters. The model 13 in 22rf sure are neat .

Swamp Fox:  Not worn out, rebarrelled and restocked to a lighter configuration.  As originally built, it was more like a bench rest rifle with a real truck axel (1.1.") barrel and a heavily made stock.  The original rifle with the scope weighed about 12 pounds and was only about 35" long.  The rebuilt rifle will have a longer, lighter barrel and a some what sleeker stock.  Hope to get it down to around 7 pounds scoped or there abouts.