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Reply #15 - Dec 19th, 2005 at 10:46am
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     I have a No. 3 action that does not have a thru bolt and it is 2.34 lbs.. The scale is used to weigh hunter rifles and is supposed to be accurate to less than 1/2 ounce. The lack of a trigger guard and the different lever would make a slight difference from the No.1
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Reply #16 - Dec 19th, 2005 at 10:29pm
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Hmmmm - Thanks very much for this Mes.  I'm assuming yours still has the hanger and all associated bits. ?? The throughbolts are of small diameter and don't weight much.  The "weight" in the Ruger must therefore be in the barrel profile, which is an easily addressed issue if one wants to go there.  The problem that  (highlighted to me by another poster)  is struck in that the fitting of the forend to a small barrel profile is complicated because the channel need to be wide enough to accomodate the hanger and the ejector block.

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Reply #17 - Dec 20th, 2005 at 12:16pm
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Tentman:
Yes all the parts are there except the thru bolt.   The action has been sitting in my safe for about 10 years.
  

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Reply #18 - Dec 20th, 2005 at 12:53pm
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I just weighed my newly acquired Ruger #3. As issued, with just the folding rear sight and issue front, it weighs 6.0 lbs complete. It is in 45/70 caliber.

The .30/40 should not be over a half lb heavier (due to the smaller bore).

That is plenty light for me for a centerfire hunting rifle of serious caliber. That should also be financially friendly compared to most quality single shot rifles, IF you can find one in the caliber you want.

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Reply #19 - Dec 20th, 2005 at 2:17pm
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Dale,   I had one of the #3 45-70's for hunting also. Emphasis is on had; I was too much of a sissy for it. It certainly shot well enough but I found I needed one of those football mouthpieces for load testing or a day at the range. I hope you're tougher than I am.
  
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Reply #20 - Dec 20th, 2005 at 4:41pm
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Stevens52;
I have no illusions about recoil. However, I have a "long range" plan. I'll have a really effective recoil pad installed. I don't intend to shoot it much for fun unless I can find one of the old "collar button" moulds for 45/70. My intended hunting bullet will be from a 330 grain Gould HP mould.

Finally, I'll probably use a duplex black powder load. 10% duplex will solve the fouling problem and black powder should not be TOO bad with a light bullet.

I do know that I can load up a 500 grain bullet at 2000 fps but I have no need and definitely no interest in a load that severe in this light rifle.

After all, I am only going to use this on deer. All of my deer up to now have been with a .44 magnum revolver and it has done a stellar job. I just want to shoot at least one deer with a 45/70 before I make that trip to the Happy Hunting Grounds! Grin

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Reply #21 - Dec 20th, 2005 at 9:40pm
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Dale53,
If you have problems with recoil with the No. 3, one good fix is to stock it with a more shooter-friendly designed stock.  The issue triggerguard doesn't lend itself well to a pistol grip stock.  Iif you start with a profiled blank for a No. 1, and either eliminated the pistol grip or lengthened it to the rear, you should have  a much more comfortable stock to shoot than the No. 3 wood.

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Reply #22 - Dec 20th, 2005 at 10:19pm
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Dale,
Elmer Keith's old load of 53 Gr. of IMR 3031 with a .060 cork wad behind the 330 Gr. Goulds is hard to beat....or beats you hard....depending on how you look at it. Smiley
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Reply #23 - Dec 20th, 2005 at 11:20pm
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Dale, I have a nearly new collar button .45-70 mould laying around somewhere.  Remind me to bring it as I come.  Maybe we can even cast up a few boolits and play with your new toy while I am there.

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Reply #24 - Dec 21st, 2005 at 12:41am
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Thanks mes and Dale53. The action is, then, lighter than I guessed. A nice work of casting by Ruger, given the action's bulk.   

It's been years since I owned a No. 1, so another question if I may: how wide is the forend hanger / mainspring assembly? Is this really narrower than a light barrel profile? In my mind's eye, it's less than a half inch wide.
  

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Reply #25 - Dec 21st, 2005 at 1:06am
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Mike;
I'm going to guess that Elmer's load (53.0 grs of 3031 behind the 330 Gould bullet) will "Beat you hard!) ???

David;
Thanks for the suggestion about stock wood. I may be able to find some "take off" wood around at a reasonable price.

Froggie;
Definitely bring your collar button mould with you. In fact, put it in your car, now (it's only 1:05 A.M. as I write Grin). We'll definitely cast as many bullets as we can. I can see me shooting LOTS of the collar buttons. That bullet should make a "Pussy-cat" out of the little thumper.

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Reply #26 - Dec 21st, 2005 at 10:02am
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I'm going to guess that Elmer's load (53.0 grs of 3031 behind the 330 Gould bullet) will "Beat you hard!) ??
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Yeah, but it shoots flat. It's not bad in a 10# rifle.
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Reply #27 - Dec 22nd, 2005 at 8:22am
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Tentman:
The hanger protrudes about 4.7 inches from the front of the action.  The base of the hanger where it attaches to the front of the action is 1.012 wide.  This extends out for about 2.20 inches with a cut out on the left side that gives space for the ejector parts.  It then narrows to .5 inches for the rest of its length.  The original barrel looks like it was 1.175 inches at the action face and it does not look like you could get a much bigger barrel diameter onto the action unless you started working on the hanger.  All measurement taken with a dial caliper and bad eyes.
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Reply #28 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 5:02am
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Thank you very much, mes, for those measurements. The width of the hanger near its base would indeed make it difficult to put a featherweight barrel on the gun, at least if the forend is to be installed from below. Using a keyhole cutter would allow for it, but that would make for some very tedious fitting work. Perhaps some metal could be removed from the hanger, esp. if the ejector is to be eliminated. This will require more study on my part. Thanks again.

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Reply #29 - Dec 29th, 2005 at 11:59am
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Take a look at a used number 1. They used to make some light barreled model they are 1AB no sights they are out of production at least 10 years also the 1A with sights they quit making about 2 years ago. the rifles weight are 7-71/2 lb. The barrel 22 inches long they taper down to about .600 at the muzzel. they make a nice light hunting rifle.
  
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