GREETINGS,

I GOT TO THINKING, (NOT A GOOD THING) and maybe this was discussed before, if the ASSRA is a schuetzen outfit, why are the raffle rifles allways silhouette rifles??

xxfn grampa..

Grandpa,

  Well, looking at the current rifle I'd say it was more along the lines of a LR rifle considering the tang sight is definitely a LR model, and it also has a sight base near the butt plate. The Rigby flats on the breech end of the thin round 34" barrel in order to make wgt., along with the caliber, and the way the forearm is attached, suggest a classic style LR rifle. The drop in the stock would definitely not make it a Shilouette rifle.

PETE

XXGrampa!
That's a good question. Here is the answer as I see it. The original Classic Rifle and the "Classic Rifle in the works" were donated to us. It just so happened that the Sharps-Borschardt was a new rifle action "just released" and it was not only a wonderful thing for Al Storey (THE man at the manufacturer) to do but it also publisized his new rifle. That particular action was a "natural" for a long range rifle.
The same applied to the Frank Wesson action so generously donated by Steve Earle. It also was a natural for a long range rifle.

All of the other people who so generously donated their labor and parts need to be supported by all of us. This includes, but is not limited to Ken Hurst (who will have engraved four by the time the next one is announced), Bernie Harrell who did the wood work on the first Classic Rifle, and Steve Durren who is doing ALL of the gunsmith work (including wood work) on the Wesson. Read the write ups for ALL of the people who so generously donated to ASSRA. These are people who don't just "talk a good game" but PLAY a good game! Patronize them when you need work and parts, etc. The best way we can show our appreciation is to patronize them.

Just watch what's next coming...

In the meantime, the tickets go on sale with the next issue of the magazine (SSRJournal).

Dale53

Please correct me if I am wrong but are we not a "single-shot rifle" organization and not just a "schuetzen" organization? Does this not include alll forms of shooting and collecting? I am confused!

Seems like I remember that the first raffle rifle was a 22LR, not exactly a Silhouette caliber. Of course it could be used for the new rimfire buffalo silhouette games, but when I think of a single shot silhouette rifle, I think of the usual 12 lb 2 oz BPCRS rifle in 45-70 or 40-65. Have we had one of those yet?

I'm just grateful that we have a few members who care enough to actually contribute their time and money to the club, without getting paid for it. AND darn glad that their efforts result in a few other members getting fine new rifles of whatever style.

On one memorable occasion my old boss was announcing a party for the group, with free food and beverages including beer. One of the engineers held up his hand to ask a question, "What kind of beer IS it, Grover?"

The response was classic: "It's FREE beer, Billy! Any more unnecessary questions?"
My compliments & gratitude to the artisans involved, Joe

hi ho all,

nice to see everybody waking up a little.. , (what a great smilie face that toothy critter is).

dear dick n, the  quote as i remember it is, "ours is not to reason why, but to do like the man sez"

and a special greeting to you  mr flatlander. don't believe i had the pleasure or your aquaintanceship. allow we to give you a firm handshake and  heartywelcome to the assra site. these are a great bunch of people and they know their stuff.


please feel free to ask, answer or participate in any discussion. do not worry you may be wrong, it never bothered me..

i trust you are a member or the assra, if not, just leave a post for the ass't. he will gladly assist you in joining.

you are rite in thinking the assra is a muli disiplin org. at one time it was schutzen, then slowly it started taking in other forms of shooting. don't know how that happened, but, it did.. maybe to sell more magazines.?

anyways and howsomever, once again.. WELCOME.. glad to have you..

..ttfn..grampa..

J.D.;
Boy, is my face RED! . I just flat misread your message. I apologize, kind sir!

On the Silhouette question, I and a couple of friends started a "sub-caliber" BPCR Silhouette game several years ago at our local range (Butler County Sportsmen near Hamilton, Ohio). It is doing VERY well and we have LOTS of fun. We only have 100 yards, maximum, so we shoot at 25, 50, 75, and 100 yards (chickens, pigs, turkeys, and rams). We started out like the BPCR shooters and shot the chickens offhand and the rest off sticks. However, the boys got too good, so now we shoot both the chickens AND pigs offhand with the turkeys and rams off sticks. We have several perfect scores this year, again, so we may have to do more offhand. 

However, this has a downside. Shooting half the targets off sticks, beginners still get a pretty good numerical score and get encouraged to come back. If we go to all targets offhand like the NRA does in .22 silhouette sanctioned competition, we are afraid that we will not encourage new shooters. Our present program is working and we would like to "keep the ball rolling".

Need I mention, we are really having lots of fun?

Marsh and Glenn (HST) both have shot on our range. I believe that Glenn may have been the first to shoot a perfect score with iron sights. Glenn was using his BPCR Roller converted to .22 rimfire (with .22 insert) to shoot that score! That is fine shooting by any standard and near unbelievable with an insert rifle. That's the stuff legends are made of. Of course, Glenn's insert rifle will shoot under an inch at 100 yards. Need I mention that he is a pretty fair "mechanic", also .

Dale53

Dale, we had a similar problem at my old gun club where the steel targets originated. The rifle range portion of the club is temporarily (we hope) defunct, but I'm the official custodian of all the steel stuff for its eventual revival. (there's a real lesson for the rest of you in this, but it'll hafta wait for another time, it's called "How To Lose Your Rifle Range")

We ended up using a combination of targets and ranges, all to be shot offhand. Like your club, we only had 100 yds & so shot at half-distances of 25, 50, 75 & 100 yds & ultimately shot all from the standing position. However to ensure encouraging scores for the neophytes, we used a combination of rifle and handgun RF silhouettes, five of each size at each range. This pretty well guaranteed a fairly good minimum score for even the least-experienced, at least enough so that no one COMPLETELY disgraced themselves!

It's perfectly possible to clean this course, but the highest score in the only three matches we fired was a 37, actually a 36 because one of the silhouettes didn't hit the ground but stayed on the rail after the knockdown. The only downside is the purchase of more steel targets in the handgun size.
More fun than the proverbial barrel of monkeys, Joe