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DonH
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Ruger Forearm Mounting
Jan 9th, 2005 at 5:55am
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A question for those of you who own/ shoot Ruger single shots: how do you mount the forearm ? I assume the factory method is not used.
  
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Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2005 at 7:13am
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I have had them hung by NOT allowing the forend to touch the hanger. This is done by attaching a lug (available from Brownells) to the bbl and attaching forend screw to the lug .  This allows the forend to bed against the bbl but also allows it to Not touch the frame or hanger.  Great results.   Ken
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 9th, 2005 at 7:33am
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2 ways of doing it - either bed the forend to the barrel so that it doesn't touch the hanger or action, or bed it to action and hanger, freefloating the barrel.  Either will work, and can give good results.  When the forearm is touching both, that's where trouble usually begins...
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2005 at 6:43pm
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My custom 32/357 Ruger #3/#1 done last year by Steve Durren has the forend glass bedded to the barrel and is clearanced to the reciever and hanger. Accuracy wise it seems to be a winning combination and is consistant over the year I've had it. One neat trick he did was to inlet and glass into the forend a recoil lug behind the mounting block on the barrel. To the outside, it is completely invisable and can only be seen when the forend is removed. He did that to be 99% (nothing is 100%  Wink )that it stayed put.  Ed
  
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Reply #4 - Jan 9th, 2005 at 11:29pm
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Ed,   now you went and done it ------  guess I had better mix up some glass tomorrow & get cracking on my #1 & #3/         Ken
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2005 at 10:26am
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Frank de Haas performed an interesting experiment in which he bedded the forearm of one Ruger No 1 rifle in two different ways, to compare the results. The first way was to bed the forearm to the hanger, with the barrel free-floating except for a set screw between the hanger and barrel. The second way was to fab a bedding block for the barrel and attach the forearm to it with the hanger free-floated & the forearm not touching the frame. Both gave equally satisfactory results, with essentially the same accuracy level.

The secret appears to be to not mix the two approaches, i.e. don't let the forearm touch the hanger and the bbl at the same time.

I personally now prefer the bbl-mounted approach, since it's been my experience that the Ruger hanger is too flexible. Resting the hanger-bedded forearm at different points appears to change the POI, presumably because of the varying bounce on the bags. Adding the set screw between the hanger and bbl appears to lessen this bounce effect, but it's still there to some degree in my tests.

One of my gunsmith friends has installed a much more rigid hanger in place of the original, which appears to improve things noticeably. This is a lot of work while the alternative barrel bedding block method is fairly simple in comparison.

If I had a Ruger, I'd use the set screw method first since it's the easiest, then test the results. Varying the screw tension from light to heavy, testing at regular intervals, I may find that the heaviest tension gives the most consistent groups. If results weren't to my liking, then I'd do the bedding block method.

All my personal rifles use the bedding block method or a variation of it.
ttfn, Joe
  
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Re: Ruger Forearm Mounting
Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2005 at 12:14pm
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Ken
Sorry...didn't mean to make more work for you. Blame it on Steve...he did it  Grin

Also, forgot one more item. I had to file a small amount of material from the top side of the hanger before the barrel got screwed back on. In my rifle, with a #3 GM barrel, the top of the hanger touched the bottom of the barrel, ever so slightly, when the standard mainspring was installed and the gun cocked. Others may not, just check it out to be sure.
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 14th, 2005 at 3:39pm
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I don't like the little tuning fork vibrating on the action. So I cut the hanger off and make a block to put on the barrel for the main spring. The forend is then screwed to the barrel. The result is much like the Winchester Single Shot and shoots very well. This method has been used by many people I got the idea from Norm Lammers many years ago.
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Reply #8 - Jan 15th, 2005 at 12:52am
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Very Interesting this cut off hanger and block arrangement,  think I'll keep it in mind for the next Ruger #1 or #3.   thanks,   Ken
  
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Reply #9 - Jan 17th, 2005 at 5:13am
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fallingblock;
How is this block attached to the barrel?
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 22nd, 2005 at 12:39am
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On my rifle I just used the end of the Ruger hanger and drilled two holes to attach it to the barrel. Rather crude but mine was the first one that I did.
  

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Reply #11 - Jan 22nd, 2005 at 5:45am
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Thanks fallingblock and others who responded.
  
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Reply #12 - Jan 17th, 2006 at 1:41am
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I have been shooting No. 1s since they first came out.  Still have my first one, a 7mm Rem. Mag. with sn. 3XXX. I have had great results with free floating by shimming between the hanger and the fore-arm and a little judicial wood removal in the barrel channel. If this is done, the rifle will be particular about contact of the fore-arm to the front of the action. Keep this contact very even and light.  The 7mm Mag. will put three shots from a cold clean barrel into one ragged hole if I hold right. I still own several, they are all sub MOA. I have only owned two that I gave up on.  One was a little 1A in 7x57 that had about half a mile of free bore. Never did get it to shoot in 7X57.  Finally ran a reamer into it and made it a 280 Rem. (cleand up that freebore)  It now puts 160gr Nozler partitions into 3/4 inch. Pretty hard to beat that combo. The other was a No. 3 in 223. I finally gave up on that one, it went the way of the Dodo bird, sold it.
  
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