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Measuring bullets with odd grooves
Oct 22nd, 2026 at 7:13am
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Some months back a member offered to measure a bullet with 7 grooves. Can't remember who it was. Seems every time I get a new gun it has an odd nr. of grooves. I will pay $20/ bullet to anyone with a v-micrometer, pin gauges, etc. to tell me the bore diameter and groove depth of bullets I mail.
  
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Re: Measuring bullets with odd grooves
Reply #1 - Oct 22nd, 2026 at 2:07pm
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Hi Emmett,

Try this... Feel free to send me $20.00 Grin

To measure a bullet or a slug from a barrel with an odd number of grooves and lands (such as 5 or 7), standard caliper or micrometer jaws cannot sit directly across from a groove-to-groove line.

Alternative Measuring Methods

• The Shim Stock Method: Wrap a strip of known-thickness thin shim stock (or aluminum foil/thin paper) tightly around the slug so it conforms to the surface grooves. Measure the total outer diameter with a micrometer, then subtract twice the thickness of the shim stock to find the true groove diameter.
• V-Anvil Micrometer: Use a specialized V-block or V-anvil micrometer designed explicitly to measure odd-fluted or odd-grooved cylindrical objects.
• Land-to-Groove Calculation (The Math Method): Measure the distance from a land on one side to a groove on the opposite side.
     • As discussed by shooters on the Smith & Wesson Forum, you take that measurement, subtract the known or estimated bore (land) diameter, multiply that difference by 2, and add the bore diameter back in to estimate the groove size.
• Cylinder Throat / Pass Test (Revolvers): For revolvers with an odd number of grooves (like 5-groove Ruger or S&W barrels), slug the bore and see if the slug passes through the cylinder throats with a light slip-fit to verify dimensional match.
• Shearing the Slug: Carefully spin or turn a soft lead slug inside the bore just enough to shear off the raised groove impressions, reducing it to a pure bore-diameter slug, then calculate groove depth by adding measured depths back to the base bore size.
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Some months back a member offered to measure a bullet with 7 grooves. Can't remember who it was. Seems every time I get a new gun it has an odd nr. of grooves. I will pay $20/ bullet to anyone with a v-micrometer, pin gauges, etc. to tell me the bore diameter and groove depth of bullets I mail.

  
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Re: Measuring bullets with odd grooves
Reply #2 - Oct 22nd, 2026 at 4:50pm
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Greetings,

One "might" be able to measure a seven groove bullet using a three flute micrometer.

There may be just enough contact area to engage the bullet.

Send me a seven groove bullet and I will give it a go.

Cheers,

Dave
  
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Re: Measuring bullets with odd grooves
Reply #3 - yesterday at 3:26am
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'Outilmeter' ... or some such crazy Euro thing ...

I have a couple micrometers for multi flute cutters ... somewhere between 3 and 5 flutes ... 6 would obviously be the same as a 2 flute ...

  
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Re: Measuring bullets with odd grooves
Reply #4 - yesterday at 5:22am
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it's probably no help but, the way I do it you need pin gauges and a blade mic.

I use the pin gauge to measure the bore then, use the blade mic to measure the depth of the groove in the lead slug, double the groove depth and add to the bore.

The blade mic will measure to the bottom of the slug , or what would be the bore dia, to the outside of the opposing  groove dia. You then subtract the bore dia from that measurement and that gives the depth of the groove. 

Edited, to explain a little better.
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Re: Measuring bullets with odd grooves
Reply #5 - yesterday at 10:45pm
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I have a v-block somewhere in the shop for measuring 5 groove barrels.
I seem to remember it's 108 degrees, and with a little mathematics, a slug can be measured quite accurately.
  
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