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Bulseyetom Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1051 Location: Santa Maria, Ca Joined: Oct 31^st, 2010	1885 Highwalls converted to rimless Oct 20^th, 2026 at 5:40pm	Print Post
	I was just checking out rifles on Gunsinternational and saw a HW in 6mm Remington built on an early action and also a 257 Roberts but no indication of what year it was. Both were works of art and the price showed it! My question is what does it take to convert an 1885 to work with a rimless cartridge. I know winchester made a few in 30-06 for match work. If it is not to difficult I would think in the heyday of wildcatting that more would have been converted and chambered for varmint shooting. As always, dumb but happy. Tom


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guilty gil Junior Member Offline Posts: 53 Location: Livingston mt. Joined: Feb 5^th, 2021	Re: 1885 Highwalls converted to rimless Reply #1 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 7:26pm	Print Post
	Rimless extracter is relitively easy. I've built 15-20 of them. Drill smallhole for straight wire spring with small bend at end that moves extractor to the right to snap over rim & engage shell. If your interested pm me & i will take some photos. Mick


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4125 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: 1885 Highwalls converted to rimless Reply #2 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 7:57pm	Print Post
	Heresy I say, heresy. Beware!

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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2422 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: 1885 Highwalls converted to rimless Reply #3 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 8:23pm	Print Post
	Jack, No it's not, I believe Mick has done more than a few. Maybe not a job for the less equipped. I've done a couple and no desire to do more but I'm not interested in rimless features in a single shot. I've pulled a lot of my own toenails that were ingrown and infected but I don't forward to the process, the extractor mod is not quite as intense as that, so if the urge hit me again I might question Mick for his method. The attached pdf file came to me via the ASSRA archives. Drawing #1 is the process I used previously. Greg

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gnoahhh Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1170 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: 1885 Highwalls converted to rimless Reply #4 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 8:34pm	Print Post
	The first two HW's I owned back in the dark ages of the late 70's-1980-ish were both varmint conversions built by Jerry Gebby in the late 30's-40's. One was an R2 Lovell and the other was a .22 Varminter (.22-250). I don't recall the Varminter hiccuping ever and I also recall the extractor was engineered like as described above. (But truth be told it was the R2 Lovell rifle that really set me on the path of single shot-ery. That one and a .219 Donaldson Wasp built by an unknown smith, but I digress. Pennsylvania groundhogs hated those rifles with a passion.)


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4125 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: 1885 Highwalls converted to rimless Reply #5 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 9:29pm	Print Post
	No prairie dogs or woodchucks in these here parts. I won a 219 Zipper high wall once. It had only 1 bid on Gun Broker at $800. I bid the next increment at $805 and forgot all about it. Later that Saturday afternoon I had the worst pain in my right shoulder blade that had started when I woke up. I figured I had slept wrong. I finally went to the local drop in clinic and was eventually diagnosed with a Pulmonary embolism. As I was entering the hospital emergency room my phone sounded off with a message indicating that I had won the rifle. I evidently survived the blood clot I believe but couldn’t find a use for that caliber and sold the rifle.

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RJ-35-40 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 408 Location: Saint Augustine Joined: Dec 7^th, 2016	Re: 1885 Highwalls converted to rimless Reply #6 - yesterday at 11:04am	Print Post
	Jack, Glad you passed it. UNLike Kidney or bladder stones, blood clots are the real danger zones. RE: Heresy is good but I think Sacrilege is a better descriptor. ' Ole'Moses Browning did a flip in his grave' bpjack wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 9:29pm: No prairie dogs or woodchucks in these here parts. I won a 219 Zipper high wall once. It had only 1 bid on Gun Broker at $800. I bid the next increment at $805 and forgot all about it. Later that Saturday afternoon I had the worst pain in my right shoulder blade that had started when I woke up. I figured I had slept wrong. I finally went to the local drop in clinic and was eventually diagnosed with a Pulmonary embolism. As I was entering the hospital emergency room my phone sounded off with a message indicating that I had won the rifle. I evidently survived the blood clot I believe but couldn’t find a use for that caliber and sold the rifle.


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2734 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: 1885 Highwalls converted to rimless Reply #7 - yesterday at 11:45am	Print Post
	A while back I remember reading that the 30-06 match rifles were not actually rimless and this was a misconception accidentally made popular by Campbell's books. Bert Hartman writes about this on the Winchester Collectors forum in more than one place. Here is one of the posts: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Chris.


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4125 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: 1885 Highwalls converted to rimless Reply #8 - yesterday at 2:03pm	Print Post
	Quote: Glad you passed it. UNLike Kidney or bladder stones, blood clots are the real danger zones When the doctor looked at my MRI he used a rare medical term to describe it. He called it a *doozy*! What is weird is after 3 days in the hospital hooked up to every sensor they had and dozens of blood draws, I went to my primary physician a week after for a follow up. He kept listening to my chest and looking back at the computer screen and finally said, 'If it didn't show up on your records that you had a PE 10 days ago, I wouldn't believe it. You sound perfectly normal now"

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2123 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: 1885 Highwalls converted to rimless Reply #9 - yesterday at 3:49pm	Print Post
	Whew!! glad to hear.

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