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pacecars Participating Member Online Posts: 32 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2008	WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:00am	Print Post
	What do you have? Ronnie


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bullshop Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 463 Joined: Sep 14^th, 2017	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #1 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 1:21pm	Print Post
	What is 40-70 straight Shiloh ? We have auctions for 40-70 Sharps straight brass made from 30-40 Krag. I am unfamiliar with the Shiloh version.


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bgmkithaca Participating Member Offline Posts: 29 Joined: Jul 22^nd, 2014	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #2 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 3:10pm	Print Post
	I think that the Shiloh version has a thinner rim than original cases.


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2240 Joined: Mar 20^th, 2013	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #3 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 3:26pm	Print Post
	I thought Shiloh used 405 brass ran through a 40-70 sizing die. Bob


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pacecars Participating Member Online Posts: 32 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2008	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #4 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:00pm	Print Post
	The Shiloh was in parentheses to indicate it was for one of their guns. The original Sharps rifles use the thicker rims.


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2240 Joined: Mar 20^th, 2013	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #5 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:43pm	Print Post
	pacecars wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:00pm: The Shiloh was in parentheses to indicate it was for one of their guns. The original Sharps rifles use the thicker rims. I understood this. So are you looking for brass marked Shiloh 40-70?


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pacecars Participating Member Online Posts: 32 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2008	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #6 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:17pm	Print Post
	bobw wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:43pm: pacecars wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:00pm: The Shiloh was in parentheses to indicate it was for one of their guns. The original Sharps rifles use the thicker rims. I understood this. So are you looking for brass marked Shiloh 40-70? No. Any that will work will do including the various stretched cases like .303 British, .30-40 Krag or the .405 Winchester


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bullshop Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 463 Joined: Sep 14^th, 2017	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #7 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:34pm	Print Post
	We can also make them from 405 WCF for you if you wish, and we barter.


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cadyk Participating Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2026	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #8 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 10:19pm	Print Post
	Some of the .40-70 rifles built by Shiloh had chambers tight enough that the .405 Hornady brass wouldn't chamber a 0.408" bullet because of the neck thickness. I had a Roller built chamber ed specifically for the Hornady brass. I'm not certain if/when they may have changed. It might be a good idea to call Kirk with your serial number and get the straight story. Cadyk


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Oakdale Full Member Offline Posts: 134 Location: Maplewood, MN Joined: Jun 7^th, 2017	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #9 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 4:59pm	Print Post
	I have a CSA 40-70 that was bought new in 2010. When I ordered it I told CSA that I’d be using Hornady 405 Winch. cases. All I did was trim the length and load them. I clean, anneal and trim every fall. I’ve been shooting the same (150) cases every year, using BP only. I have another (150) of those cases, new in the boxes. They will be included with my rifle and a whole bunch of BP items when I list the rifle for sale. Time to let someone else enjoy this nice rifle, as my shooting interests have changed and I’m leaving the BP game. Tom


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Deadeye Bly Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1163 Location: Stephens City Joined: Feb 25^th, 2011	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #10 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 6:50pm	Print Post
	The Hornady 405 brass is too thick for the Shiloh chamber and will need to be neck turned. I know, I have a Shiloh and some 405 cases prepped.


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bullshop Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 463 Joined: Sep 14^th, 2017	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #11 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 11:49pm	Print Post
	Deadeye Bly wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 6:50pm: The Hornady 405 brass is too thick for the Shiloh chamber and will need to be neck turned. I know, I have a Shiloh and some 405 cases prepped. What brand of brass ? What diameter bullet ? What was the case neck wall thickness required for free chambering?


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bullshop Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 463 Joined: Sep 14^th, 2017	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #12 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 11:54pm	Print Post
	After I posted I saw that you were referring to Hornady brass. I have both Hornady and Bertram 405 brass so will have to check neck wall thickness to see if there is a difference.


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bullshop Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 463 Joined: Sep 14^th, 2017	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #13 - Oct 21^st, 2026 at 1:12pm	Print Post
	We asked both C.Sharps and Shiloh Sharps giving them the rim dimensions of the Bertram 405 Win brass if those dimensions would be compatible with their 40 - 70 SS chambers. C.Sharps responded with an affirmative. Shiloh did not respond


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rr2241tx Full Member Online Posts: 148 Location: San Marcos Joined: Mar 28^th, 2012	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #14 - Oct 21^st, 2026 at 1:59pm	Print Post
	My Shiloh required turning Krag rims to.059. I left the cases short and seated 0.409 Money bullets out enough to make up the shortfall, so no neck thickness issue.


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labop Participating Member Offline Posts: 16 Location: IN Joined: Nov 15^th, 2007	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #15 - yesterday at 12:30pm	Print Post
	My Shiloh built in 2022 will chamber JBA 405 brass run through a 40-70 straight die using .409 bullets no neck turn with a 0.065 rim. Maybe they have two reemers.


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pacecars Participating Member Online Posts: 32 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2008	Re: WTB .40-70 Sharps Straight (Shiloh) brass Reply #16 - Today at 12:07am	Print Post
	Thanks for all the offers but turns out the deal fell through on the .40-70 Shiloh but I have now found one in .40-65 that I am buying instead. Time to go down another rabbit hole!


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