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JHand
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Swiss 1.5 vs Goex Cartridge
Yesterday at 10:33am
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Well, I shot just about the last of my Swiss 1.5 this weekend at our 2 day BPCR match. I have more on backorder,  but to get me through,  I was able to grab 3 lbs of Goex Cartridge and 4f from the back corner of my dad's closet. Still in metal cans, lot from 2003.

Unfortunately 3 l s isn't really enough to do a lot of load development.  My Swiss lot liked a LOT of compression,  83gr, compressed .27", with a 535 postel (reduced front band) got me the 42 shot chrono group below.

Does anyone have old records of how much the goex liked to be compressed that I could use as a starting point? Im planning on using 4f as the priming charge with the old powder
  
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Re: Swiss 1.5 vs Goex Cartridge
Reply #1 - yesterday at 10:58am
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I would start with the same volume and compression that you are all ready using and see how that works. When I was shooting I was running 65 to 68 gr in a 45-70 and seating a postel with just the front band exposed. 
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Re: Swiss 1.5 vs Goex Cartridge
Reply #2 - yesterday at 3:52pm
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Start with the same volume as your 1.5 Swiss  as stated before. Weight that charge and mark the difference in weight. I use a muzzle loader dispenser to gage volume. Start from there . I haven’t use goex in a long time but I remember it being a lot
Harder in the boar after a shot than Swiss so beware of that.
  
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Re: Swiss 1.5 vs Goex Cartridge
Reply #3 - yesterday at 7:45pm
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69 grains of Cartridge in Winchester or Remington cases. cci 200 primer, .030 fiber wad and a 535 postel cast from 20-1 worked well in 2 of my 45-70's, and a 3rd one like Winchester large rifle primers.
  
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Re: Swiss 1.5 vs Goex Cartridge
Reply #4 - yesterday at 7:48pm
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My results in my 45-90 were just th opposite.  Swiss liked very little compression and back in the day Goex ctg liked a lot of compression.
  

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Re: Swiss 1.5 vs Goex Cartridge
Reply #5 - yesterday at 7:57pm
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Not surenif I just have a big chamber, or its the reduced front band, but the above load is for my 45-70. 83gr of Swiss 1.5, compressed about .27". Lead me to my highest silhouette score this past weekend of a 33! Makes me sad this lot is gone
  
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