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A Belgian Martini Rook in 300 Rook (or 295 Rook)
Oct 12th, 2026 at 8:58pm
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I've had this little rifle for over 60 years. There has been some discussion lately of these and searching for brass and dies. When I got this one it was back in the dark ages, that is, the time long before the internet which made it possible to find anything in minutes with a few clicks. So ammo, no sweat, well, sweat. On good advice the next best thing for brass was a quick rechamber to 32 Long Colt and then wing it from there. We'll get back to that. First, how could I not get this cute little Martini rifle with its well figured checkered wood and 24.5 inch ovoid barrel with a full length flat top and a fixed leaf sight with a flip up second leaf for distance? It bears only Belgian Liege proof marks and no other makers or marketers name. This was a time when Cadets were a dime a dozen and everyone was looking for 310 Cadet ammo. But, I digress. This was the small frame Martini that was a miniature military with the right side cocked indicator, a pattern that was brought to the British market by W.W. Greener. This was a small Martini that dominated the British Rook and Rabbit rifle trade made in and imported from Belgium and would then be remarked with British proofs. Not everyone could afford the highly custom engraved break open rifles built from scratch by the old line British firms but these Belgian made Martinis imported and spruced up and marked by the large British firms could be had inexpensively (and would also outshoot some of the more expensive ones!). Meanwhile 60 years ago, both 32 Short and Long Colt commercial ammo was easily available and dies, even the inexpensive CH ones were available. Now the Colts were more suitable for the 320 Rook but they could be shot in the 300 Rook. Even now heeled bullet moulds are available and I have shot 32 heeled bullets like 299153 in my rifle. True, while the heels fit in the Colt cases the excess diameter of the bullets get stripped off on firing in a 300 and build up in the throats. And then, along came Buffalo Arms with mould Jim300080 which produces perfect 80 grain .300 diameter bullets which fit nicely in the 32 Long Colt necks and shoot well in the 300 barrel. I use 3.3 grains of AA5 in mine and that combo is quite accurate. Of course, 32 Long Colt brass is getting rare these days and I have bought loaded vintage factory ammo at shows just to get brass that matches the make and model of the brass I already have. Fortunately, the brass lasts a long time. And that's my story.
  
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Re: A Belgian Martini Rook in 300 Rook (or 295 Rook)
Reply #1 - Oct 13th, 2026 at 9:25am
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Nice story Oneatatime, thanks for taking the time to share that with us.  I have a couple of vintage rifles in this caliber, one's a Martini and one is a breakopen, like yours, nicely made although mine need some work as both saw a lot of use, marvelous wood and no markings except proofs.
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Re: A Belgian Martini Rook in 300 Rook (or 295 Rook)
Reply #2 - Oct 13th, 2026 at 10:32am
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Another bullet possibility is the old Lyman 299155 which is a hollowbase, bore diameter 75gr. bullet for the .32 Long (Colt). I have a couple old tong tools with this mold on them. One is marked 32 LIL (Long, Inside  Lubed), the other is 32LR (32 Long Rifle). They drop at .302-3 cast with 40:1. The tong tools work very well for loading these shells. Sadly, the world has drifted to Ruger 1022's for plinking and small game. I too have had issues with leading up fast using 32 Long Colt factory ammo but with the 40:1 cast reloads I don't have that problem.
  

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Re: A Belgian Martini Rook in 300 Rook (or 295 Rook)
Reply #3 - Oct 13th, 2026 at 11:43am
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Kootne, I've seen that bullet in the old Lyman moulds list and wondered about it but I'll bet there are more hens with teeth than there are those moulds in circulation. I notice that my Buffalo Arms mould is listed as out of stock (and kind of expensive!) but I'd guess that with a few requests it might return. It is a perfect bullet for the 300 Rook though. Now days Accurate could be a possibility and could even be had as a two chamber. I should have mentioned that back then I did have one of the Cadets that had been rechambered to 32-20 but the less said about that the better. It is of some interest that I found the guts of the 12/15 Martini and the Cadet are interchangeable.
  
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