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Reply #15 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 9:14am
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Is the m die any different than just using an rcbs expander die with custom mandrels or does it do something extra.
  
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Reply #16 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 11:31am
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The nice aspect of the Lyman die are the custom expanders that Buffalo arms sells for them.
  

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Reply #17 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 12:47pm
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Lyman M die rods are threaded on the end so you can quickly change expander plugs. Unfortunately Lyman sells the expander rods with plugs as an assembly and not just the expander plugs. But they're pretty cheap, and I just set the rods aside and use only the plugs. I drilled a wood block with a bunch of holes and used a sharpie to write diameters by each expander.
I buy the expanders direct from Lyman and since they don't sell custom sizes I just buy the next size larger and turn them down. Chuck the threaded shank in my drill press and use a file to work them down to the exact size I need for whatever I'm expanding. They have a large variety of sizes for sale, but occasionally they're a bit larger than I need. Last I bought were less than $4 each, so I bought extras in .45-70 and .38-55 to save on shipping.
  

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Reply #18 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 1:00pm
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This does sound the same as using an RCBS expander die and a set of custom mandrels then.  I have piles of custom ones from Buffalo Arms that I can use to get whatever neck tension I want in each calibre.

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Reply #19 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 5:41pm
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Just checked and I do have one set of 45-90 Lyman dies. The expander die is stamped M-2. So it must be the M die. Lyman did good. Slick. I've always made my own when I needed them. That's why I told Jack to get on the lathe and make one. Cheaper thata way. As Johnny Cash would say...
  

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Reply #20 - Oct 12th, 2026 at 9:15am
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I often remove that ridge on my M die expanders so I can run it down deeper.
  

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Re: 38-70 High Wall
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I’ve always regarded the M die as one of the last great reloading tools the gnomes at Lyman got to make before the paper pushers stifled all development @ Lyman. 
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Reply #22 - Today at 2:09pm
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I have used the famous M-die for quite a few years. Very helpful!
But…I know nothing about the .38-70, .38-72, etc. as compared to the .38-55. Maybe the others are better long distance cartridges?

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Reply #23 - Today at 2:41pm
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My 38-70 was chosen, not because I was looking for a longer range option, but simply because the barrel on eBay was a good price.  I will be taking it to the rang tomorrow to see how it shoots with smokeless, fixed and breech seated.

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