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Taking a rifle into Canada
Sep 30th, 2026 at 1:36pm
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I am contemplating going on a Bear Hunt in Canada next year and looked to see what it took to declare a rifle.  One thing that is required is a serial number.  I really want to take my Remington Rolling Block that has been rebuilt by somebody in the past that ground everything down smooth and case colored the action.  There are no marks on the tang.  I haven't pulled the stock off to see what is there.  The barrel is a newer one chambered in 38-56.  Deciding that might not be a rifle that I could use, I dug out my Remington #5 that has been converted to a 50-70 and it still has the patent dates on the tang but no visible serial number.  Again, I have not removed the stock.  How would I go about checking with the Canadian Customs and has anybody successfully declared an old antique rifle with on serial number.  It is not like a Rolling Block is a terrorist weapon but our president is not making any friends in Canada.  Thanks for any help.  Tom
  
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Reply #1 - Sep 30th, 2026 at 1:51pm
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I would have to say that unless you have a particular reason to go to Canada other than the hunt why go through the aggravation. American bears and 50/70s go together like ham and eggs.
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 30th, 2026 at 2:21pm
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The military Remington rolling blocks don't have any serial numbers on them, just some assembly numbers usually on the side of the upper tang.   Thus, anything built on one of the common military actions will not have a serial number.  You could probably just stamp a string of numbers on the lower tang and call it a serial number.

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Reply #3 - Sep 30th, 2026 at 2:33pm
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I'm in Canada so haven't experienced what it's like coming from America with a rifle into Canada ( other than as a Canadian citizen returning from matches in America ).  Just like you guys, we do have plenty of old guns with no serial numbers and no problems with that.  If it were me I'd see if I could call the particular crossing that you want to use and see what they say.  They aren't likely to be that concerned about an old black powder single shot rifle.  At least they haven't been about mine.  Often they are just curious.  But I don't know about the experiences as an American.  I imagine they'd be more concerned that you also have a hand gun which they seem to be more focused on.   

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Reply #4 - Sep 30th, 2026 at 2:52pm
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Border police are not gun guys, so I'd remove the buttstock and check the assembly numbers and write them down. Then when you cross tell them where the "serial number" is and be prepared to remove the stock to show them.
  

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Re: Taking a rifle into Canada
Reply #5 - Sep 30th, 2026 at 8:03pm
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The Canadian's are Great people, the country side is beautiful.... The Government wiennies not so much.

I used to fly for a living..... The stories about bad experiences with Customs and immigration abound. I've witnessed the gov officials go into full interrogation mode on many occasions. 

Confiscating / Seizing bank accounts of protestors is a bridge too far.
I avoided trips there then and now that I'm retired you couldn't pay me to go there. 

For some reason Customs and immigration think they are entitled to know every detail of your life....

Their Autocratic policies are very distasteful. I've often wondered if being aggressive in that way is baked into the job description or has the population become used to being dictated to...

We have bad police here too, at least in America you can tell police
that 'I'm sorry sir I don't believe you have the necessary clearance for me to share that information with you.....'   


gunlaker wrote on Sep 30th, 2026 at 2:33pm:
I'm in Canada so haven't experienced what it's like coming from America with a rifle into Canada ( other than as a Canadian citizen returning from matches in America ).  Just like you guys, we do have plenty of old guns with no serial numbers and no problems with that.  If it were me I'd see if I could call the particular crossing that you want to use and see what they say.  They aren't likely to be that concerned about an old black powder single shot rifle.  At least they haven't been about mine.  Often they are just curious.  But I don't know about the experiences as an American.  I imagine they'd be more concerned that you also have a hand gun which they seem to be more focused on.   

Chris.

  
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Reply #6 - Sep 30th, 2026 at 8:26pm
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Yeah I've had similar issues crossing from Canada into Washington state.  You give some people a little authority and it goes to their heads and they become tyrants.

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Reply #7 - Sep 30th, 2026 at 8:48pm
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I would guess it's pure discretionary, but my experience has smooth and easy. Still, my strategy was to bring something that I wouldn't get too broken up if it was impounded, even for a traffic stop or game check out in the field.
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 30th, 2026 at 10:35pm
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Just create a # and mark it somewhere that it can be seen, and your outfitter should be able to pre send you the customs form, .... just don't sign until you're in the presence of a customs officer.
And have a letter from your outfitter inviting you.
Worked for my clients for years.
  
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Reply #9 - Oct 1st, 2026 at 9:41am
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I won't ever attempt to go to Canada with any firearm. Ever. 
Once, I was going into BC from Montana and they hauled me in and searched my truck. Having mucked anything I thought was questionable, it only mildly peeved me until they found- a single .22 round! Whereupon the 'team' nearly dismantled my pickup- down to inspecting the inside of the air cleaner and dumping the contents of my bed box into the floor of the bed. Ever seen a couple of hundred fishing flies scattered among tools, blankets, assorted traveling necesseties and all the coruption seen in a storage box? Over a .22 shell in contradiction to my statement that nothing to claimed was aboard. Months later I was still finding flies with no idea how many were lost entirely. I don't need that again.
  
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Re: Taking a rifle into Canada
Reply #10 - Oct 1st, 2026 at 11:14am
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Haven't gone into Canada since 9-11, but prior to that we went there every year to fish the same lake in BC. Never had any issues going or coming home. They asked what we were doing, and waved us through both ways.
  

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Reply #11 - Oct 1st, 2026 at 11:46am
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The border can be a bit of a crap shoot in either direction.  Most of the time I've found it pretty good.  About 1/2 the time I've been waived through and the other 1/2 had to go in for secondary inspection.  Most of that was fine other than once I had a CBP guy at the Blaine crossing into Washington state gouge up a brand new extra fancy Shiloh.  Had to be on purpose I think.  I only discovered it after opening my Pelican case a few days later in Colorado.  Even the pewter tip had a big groove in it.  But mostly it's been good.  I wouldn't ever bring anything really nice across the border where someone gets to handle it without me being there to watch.   

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Reply #12 - Oct 1st, 2026 at 1:23pm
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Well, this brings up the question of whether Canadian outfitters/guides have loaner rifles for U.S. guests to use. When Mexico decided U.S.  deer hunters were a threat to national security, many of their outfitters supplied rifles for booked hunters.  How many times can one cut off one's own nose to spite one's face?
  
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Re: Taking a rifle into Canada
Reply #13 - Oct 1st, 2026 at 4:43pm
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I'd be really surprised if an outfitter wouldn't lend a rifle so you don't have to deal with potential border problems, but it would more than likely be a modern bolt action than a neat old single shot.
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 1st, 2026 at 8:15pm
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My first post on this forum, yay.

If a government wants to see a serial number on a rifle before it comes into their country; I would not arbitrarily stamp numbers on one of my rifles, unless I was the maker. And then I wouldn't be taking it to foreign countries anyway.

There are legal ways to go through the ATF to add serial numbers to guns, may not be worth the trouble though.

I'm also not really in favor of borrowing a rifle from an outfitter, you never know what kind of shape it is in til you get there.

I do understand wanting to take a certain rifle on a hunt, but here you might be better off buying a new rifle with a visible s/n.

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Reply #15 - Oct 1st, 2026 at 11:59pm
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I have sent an inquiry to the Canadian Customs explaining how my rifle never had a serial number and is at least 130 years old with ammo that was obsolete 50 years ago.  Will report on their reply if I get one.  I have other old rifles with serial numbers but I really like a Rolling Block.  Other choices would be my Hepburn in 40-70 SS, my Borchardt in 30/40 Ackley Improved, a High Wall in 30-40 or even a Model 94 in 38-55.  My biggest problem is if I will be able to get out of bed in another year!   Grin  Tom
  
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While I avoid going into Canada with any Fire Arms I also AVOID, New York, MA., N.J. etc. 

At least in America we have some constitutional protections. 
As we all know, any entity, company or government agency is only as good as the local representative. Ignoring the terminally stupid autocrats is a challenge. 

Recently I got fined $1,000.00 for mowing weeds on some home building lots I own. The county official that imposed the 'penalty', she' told me it was for environmental reasons. How is it that routine maintenance is an infraction. No trees, Just WEEDS. 
Good grief. Now it will cost more for the lawyers than the fine.

We need to strip qualified immunity for government players and make them personally liable for stupid, unjustified impositions on our liberties. 

Whew, sorry for the rant..

Bulseyetom wrote on Oct 1st, 2026 at 11:59pm:
I have sent an inquiry to the Canadian Customs explaining how my rifle never had a serial number and is at least 130 years old with ammo that was obsolete 50 years ago.  Will report on their reply if I get one.  I have other old rifles with serial numbers but I really like a Rolling Block.  Other choices would be my Hepburn in 40-70 SS, my Borchardt in 30/40 Ackley Improved, a High Wall in 30-40 or even a Model 94 in 38-55.  My biggest problem is if I will be able to get out of bed in another year!   Grin  Tom

  
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Reply #17 - yesterday at 5:55pm
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I am with Marlin Guy on this one.  They don't know an assembly number from anything else.  Use the assembly number on the Receiver Tang.

  
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Hi,

Good idea reaching out to the CBSA. Regarding your serial number question the Firearms Act has a bit of leeway in that it lists a requirement for a "serial number, if any" ( (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)). I used to work in government and GoC policy is that the online version of any laws and regulations is the valid reference. 

On a side note, bring along some locks for your rifle case or a trigger lock and make sure they are in place before you cross the border. Same with ammunition; I use an old ammo can with a hasp.

Good luck.

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