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Reply #15 - Sep 23rd, 2026 at 4:53pm
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830singleshot wrote on Sep 23rd, 2026 at 4:20pm:
marlinguy wrote on Sep 23rd, 2026 at 3:11pm:
ssdave wrote on Sep 23rd, 2026 at 1:45pm:
  The only thing I might have done, is post "Buyer, 2, it is yours pending a reply from Buyer 1.  Buyer 1, I have no clue what size it casts, do you want it or should I go to buyer 2?  If I don't hear back by noon, it's sold to buyer 2".


And that's the way I would have handled it. Nothing wrong with a second person saying they'll take it if the first doesn't take it. And the seller has a sure thing if that happens.


Respectfully, I have to disagree.  Your seem to be suggesting that with ANY item that someone post for sale  is reserved until any and all questions are answered, pictures delivered and a decision is made. Therefore you should immediately ask any question and call dibbs and decide later. 
IMHO a " I'll take it ", without any qualifying questions is the end of the story.  



And why not wait until any and all questions are answered by the seller??? Where's the harm in that? (Unless the seller is dilatory or uncaring to reply, I suppose.) Best to just throw money away and assume/hope for the best that it fits your needs? I don't think so. Is that how you conduct business every where else? Do you waltz into a car dealership and point at any car and say I'll take it without asking at least a couple questions? Would you buy a knife on line without at least asking what steel the blade is or what material the scales are? I think not, and the analogy fits here the same way no matter the scale of the purchase. (And if one doesn't ask those kinds of questions then one is letting himself open to a pretty fair degree of a chance for disappointment.) Edit to add: especially when dealing with old Ideal molds which we all know can produce diameters all over the map.

It has galled me over the years to witness the behavior of line jumpers here and on many other forums. It would seem to be normal behavior in some quarters. I've held my counsel about it until now when I've had it happen to me.

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Reply #16 - Sep 23rd, 2026 at 5:50pm
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gnoahhh wrote on Sep 23rd, 2026 at 4:53pm:
830singleshot wrote on Sep 23rd, 2026 at 4:20pm:
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And why not wait until any and all questions are answered by the seller??? Where's the harm in that? (Unless the seller is dilatory or uncaring to reply, I suppose.) Best to just throw money away and assume/hope for the best that it fits your needs? I don't think so. Is that how you conduct business every where else? Do you waltz into a car dealership and point at any car and say I'll take it without asking at least a couple questions? Would you buy a knife on line without at least asking what steel the blade is or what material the scales are? I think not, and the analogy fits here the same way no matter the scale of the purchase. (And if one doesn't ask those kinds of questions then one is letting himself open to a pretty fair degree of a chance for disappointment.) Edit to add: especially when dealing with old Ideal molds which we all know can produce diameters all over the map.

It has galled me over the years to witness the behavior of line jumpers here and on many other forums. It would seem to be normal behavior in some quarters. I've held my counsel about it until now when I've had it happen to me.



I won't argue with you, and I can see how, as a buyer, you would like to know exactly what you are buying, and would like to have first dibs on the item until you're sure it's what you want.  It's disappointing when you see a great bargain, and it escapes you before you are able to make sure it really is the bargain you want/need.

Unfortunately, as a seller, it really sucks to have people that are often tire kickers wanting to know more and more details about an item you would just like to have gone and have grossly underpriced just so it will go away without effort.   

I often sell things as is, no info, good price just so I don't have to measure, clean, take good pictures.  I had a case of that here in the classifieds a year or so ago.  I had an orignal #4 winchester barrel with a dirty bore.  I put it up cheap, as is.  Everybody wanted to know bore condition.  I withdrew it, cleaned it, found it was pristine, sold for $300 more ebay.

It's impossible to reconcile those two extremes in a way that will make everyone happy.
  
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Reply #17 - Sep 23rd, 2026 at 6:07pm
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The first "I'll take it" on this form wins. Not PM's not questions while someone makes up their mind. That is how I do it as a seller and I see most on this form do it as well. If you are not committed you loose out. 

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Reply #18 - Sep 23rd, 2026 at 7:15pm
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Well isn't that special. Not. Cutthroat protocols are not becoming of a gentlemanly forum such as this.
  
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Reply #19 - Sep 23rd, 2026 at 7:31pm
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Ladies. Ladies, my head is starting to hurt.
  
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Reply #20 - yesterday at 9:19am
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830singleshot wrote on Sep 23rd, 2026 at 4:20pm:
marlinguy wrote on Sep 23rd, 2026 at 3:11pm:
ssdave wrote on Sep 23rd, 2026 at 1:45pm:
  The only thing I might have done, is post "Buyer, 2, it is yours pending a reply from Buyer 1.  Buyer 1, I have no clue what size it casts, do you want it or should I go to buyer 2?  If I don't hear back by noon, it's sold to buyer 2".


And that's the way I would have handled it. Nothing wrong with a second person saying they'll take it if the first doesn't take it. And the seller has a sure thing if that happens.


Respectfully, I have to disagree.  Your seem to be suggesting that with ANY item that someone post for sale  is reserved until any and all questions are answered, pictures delivered and a decision is made. Therefore you should immediately ask any question and call dibbs and decide later. 
IMHO a " I'll take it ", without any qualifying questions is the end of the story.  



And I'll respectfully disagree with you too. 
If I post "I'll take it, PM sent, please send me pictures" (Or details) Then I've said I'll want to buy it, but I want to see what I'm buying. I have no problem if others say "Put me down for 2nd, 3rd, etc.", but nobody should jump in front of me simply because they say they'll take it and don't need pictures. The seller knows he has those other people to sell to, so he's not going to miss the sale if the pictures don't match the description and the first person passes. And the 2nd still gets it as he wanted So just posting Ill take it after someone else has said they would, but wants pictures or details is rude in my book.
If you were at a gun show and saw someone looking at an item for sale, and discussing price would you jump in and tell the seller "I'll take it?" Might get smacked in the nose for things like that.
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The only way to settle this is pistols at dawn.
  
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Jonathan wrote yesterday at 9:55am:
The only way to settle this is pistols at dawn.


Single Shot of course to be properly settled.
  
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If you were at a gun show and saw someone looking at an item for sale, and discussing price would you jump in and tell the seller "I'll take it?" Might get smacked in the nose for things like that.
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I was walking around with a nice piece at a gun show and one of the table owners asked me if he could see what I was carrying. He looked at it and asked my price and I told him and he was immediately trying to get me to come down to a lower price. Of course that's not untypical of any firearm sale. A guy standing next to me to asked if he could see the rifle and I showed it to him and he said "I'll take it for that". Guess who got the rifle? Everybody has their ideas of how we should conduct a sale but it's always been the first I'll take it that counts with me. Holding up a sale by asking to see more pictures or trying to negotiate is rude to me while somebody is there ready to buy at your price. Just my take and I know it will differ from a lot of people.
  
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If you were at a gun show and saw someone looking at an item for sale, and discussing price would you jump in and tell the seller "I'll take it?" Might get smacked in the nose for things like that.

I was walking around with a nice piece at a gun show and one of the table owners asked me if he could see what I was carrying. He looked at it and asked my price and I told him and he was immediately trying to get me to come down to a lower price. Of course that's not untypical of any firearm sale. A guy standing next to me to asked if he could see the rifle and I showed it to him and he said "I'll take it for that". Guess who got the rifle? Everybody has their ideas of how we should conduct a sale but it's always been the first I'll take it that counts with me. Holding up a sale by asking to see more pictures or trying to negotiate is rude to me while somebody is there ready to buy at your price. Just my take and I know it will differ from a lot of people. [/quote]

I don't think that's quite the same thing as I described. 
I've been at shows and watched a seller and buyer negotiating and the buyer couldn't get the price down. I didn't jump in and tell the seller I'd buy it, but as soon as the buyer put it down I picked it up and said I'd take it for the last price the seller quoted. 
Had I jumped in and got in the middle of the deal and taken it before the buyer gave up I'd feel I would be being rude stepping in.
  

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Need some popcorn for this show
  
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Better than the Biden / Trump debate so let's put our feet up and see where it goes. My money's on "I'll take it".
  
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I'll be the odd man out here, on the issue of not getting in the middle of a buyer trying to lowball a seller.

I buy estates.  Many are gun/reloading/knife estates.  

Something I run into commonly is a widow selling her husbands stuff or a daughter selling her dads.  Very, very often there's a "good friend" of the deceased negotiating to buy some of the collection, usually the best, most valuable pieces.

I OFTEN interject myself into those transactons, and just clearly say "THESE ARE WORTH A LOT MORE THAN YOU'RE BEING OFFERED.  I'll pay real value, give you a written bid that is itemized so you can compare, and I'll take them all, not just the cream of the crop".  The "friends" are sometimes very, very angry.  But, I get a lot of these estates, get a lot of referrals from the sellers, and make a reasonable profit on them, while acting fairly.  

Any time I see a Great Negotiator trying to take advantage of a naive seller, I have no compunction in making a fair offer to compete.  

As a seller, I try to set my prices at a fair market value.  I hold firm at that, and don't negotiate price.  Then, the less time it takes to make a sale, the better the return on my time.  I have a set policy on my ebay and gunbroker sales. Two questions, okay.  Three, you're out.   If a buyer askes a question that is not covered in my description or the photos, I politely answer it.  If they ask a clarification question after that, I'll answer that.  If they start using targeted questions to make the item look bad (common lowballer tactic), I don't reply and block them.  If a looker continues to ask questions like "is that a rust spot I see?  Is it stained on the left side?  It looks like it has a slight burr?", I politely reply "It appears that you're looking for a perfect item that needs to suit your tastes exactly.  I am interested in happy buyers, that will be pleased with their item.  Since you are already not happy about the item BEFORE you have purchased it, you will not be pleased with it after you purchase it.  Please find another item that is exactly as you want it, and do not buy my item".  Then, if I can, I block them from bidding/buying.  Sometimes they get quite angry and find ways to message me to express that.  But, I genuinely believe that we're both happier not doing business.
  
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So, I guess it all boils down to instead of a collegiate/gentlemanly/friendly group we have a shark tank instead. I thought we were better than that, fool that I am.
  
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All you had to do in your initial post was to unconditionally say " I'll take it", end of story.  Now, even though you still don't know anything else about it besides what the seller originally posted your acting like you called dibs on the front seat while at the same time acting like I committed a capital offense . 
I have the same information you have and made a clean, easy deal for the seller.  You on the other hand wanted him to jump through hoops before you made a final decision.  Good grief, it was $65 to your door.  Take a chance once in a while or don't play.  Real estate and other business deals often get multiple full price offers the seller has to sort through.  A cash deal without qualifications as is beats a contingency deal EVERY time. 
Go back and read your original offer and mine.
  

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