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My New Front Rest
Sep 15th, 2026 at 3:07pm
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I picked this heavy duty front rest at the last Puyallup match.  I believe it was made by a local shooter Ken Watrous.  It is very well made with tight tolerances. 

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Reply #1 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 3:20pm
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Your picture was way to big. Didn't fit in my 25 inch screen. I could see parts of it.

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Reply #2 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 3:27pm
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What was your old rest?  Got a picture? You should be able to beat John Schauf now with that new rest. I bet he's nervous now.
  

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Reply #3 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 3:42pm
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My old rest is a Harts rest with a windage top made from a lathe compound.  It has served me well and will be in use at this weekend's match.  I need to get a narrow front bag for the new rest before I use it with my match rifle.  I am also going to get a small engine hoist to lift the new one.
  

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Reply #4 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 3:54pm
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Looks like it's made from aluminium. Should be light. 

I'm using the same old rest I've had since 1996. Cost 960.00 dollars. That is a Craftsman compound rest.
  

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Reply #5 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 4:16pm
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Joe. I think you overpaid for that rest. My Harts cost me $100. At $960 yours should be solid silver. 
My Harts rest has been modified to take Arca Swiss tripod mounts. I have different bags I can slide on. It can go lower or higher than the new rest.  The jury is out on whether I will keep the new one. I will use it over the winter and see how I like it. I made a plywood box for it. Makes it heavier.
  

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Reply #6 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 4:30pm
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I'm on the scout for a laser-guided rest made by Pope during his San Francisco days. Only two copies known to exist. Legend has it that his testing thereof contributed to the San Francisco Earthquake, probably a rumor started by Shoyen and Peterson.
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 4:55pm
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gnoahhh wrote on Sep 15th, 2026 at 4:30pm:
I'm on the scout for a laser-guided rest made by Pope during his San Francisco days. Only two copies known to exist. Legend has it that his testing thereof contributed to the San Francisco Earthquake, probably a rumor started by Shoyen and Peterson.


Must have been a very limited run since his shop got destroyed the day he planned to open his doors.
  

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Reply #8 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 5:00pm
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I found a like new Caldwell Rock BR2 at an OAC show with it's optional plastic carry case for $80 some years back. It's been a great rest with the factory pads, or with a leather bag also.

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Can't figure out why this came out so huge?
  

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Reply #9 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 5:34pm
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Here's my new rest, still about 4 months to go on the wait list.  The second picture is my old rest, works well for lighter 22rf rifles not so much for heavier and those with even a tiny bit of recoil.

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Reply #10 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 5:58pm
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marlinguy wrote on Sep 15th, 2026 at 4:55pm:
gnoahhh wrote on Sep 15th, 2026 at 4:30pm:
I'm on the scout for a laser-guided rest made by Pope during his San Francisco days. Only two copies known to exist. Legend has it that his testing thereof contributed to the San Francisco Earthquake, probably a rumor started by Shoyen and Peterson.


Must have been a very limited run since his shop got destroyed the day he planned to open his doors.


Yep. Pope was a fast worker. Not. That's why only two known to exist. Same rumor has it that he whittled the prototype while flying out there, mostly in the layover in Kansas City.
  
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Reply #11 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 6:13pm
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Jeez, some mighty fancy rests I'm seeing here. I'll keep campaigning my old Sinclair, and put the money saved into a neat gun of some sort. 

If I showed y'all the bench (table) and rest I jerry rigged in the barn facing my bullet trap/gallery, y'all would take away my shiny ASSRA badge. (Badges? Badges? We don't issue no stinkin' badges says the membership director!) A variation on the theme of the slanted plank rest seen in old pictures of benchresters. I'll take a pic next time I'm in there spitting lead out of various .22's.
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 8:15pm
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My rest expensive. Yes, but I did not overpay. Has been an excellent rest well worth the money.  

Also have a commercially made rest rigged up for barrel sleds. I don't remember the brand but I do remember paying for it. All I've got out of it to date is large patterns. Started with it at Raton this summer but failed to even get sighted in. It looked impressive. Had to switch over to the old reliable sooped up wildcat rest.
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Reply #13 - Sep 15th, 2026 at 11:50pm
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Am I all wet in thinking that the angle of the wrist-to-toe line sliding in the rear bag could be the culprit for consistently wonky performance. Your barrel sled and platform looks ok, if it engenders good rock solid stability. One way to narrow the problem would be to temporarily employ a Pope machine rest thingy on the rear of the barrel (with forearm removed) to eliminate the effect of the butt stock. If that works then you know it is indeed the fault of the butt and bag (don't say it!) and you can concentrate on that aspect (or other things like barrels, lock times, bullet alloy, powder, primers, triggers, scopes, eyeballs and brain farts, ad nauseum - in other words the stuff that dreams are made of and which fuel the nightmares that keep we loonies awake at night). 

Have you tried side rails on the sled like we discussed privately a while back? They could aid straight line recoil too. Or hinder it if not closely applied and aligned perfectly. Mom said it wouldn't be easy, and she was right. And she never tried to make a Borschart group into an inch at 200 also (just a wooden spoon at minute-of-butt cheeks at arm's length).
  
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The Borchardt has scored several 248s setting on it's barrel on my old rest with the same style rear bag. The rifle and load is okay.

When the sled is used on the aluminium plate on the commercial rest the Borchardt shoots eight inch patterns. Same bullet same load etc etc. The center pin in the center of the sled rides in a V groove in the plate eliminating side play.

The center pin is used to avoid mis-alignment and binding that could happen using side rails.

The whole shebang looks good on paper but in use it is a total failure. I've been through the sled infatuation several times before with the same result. When shooting a 40+ pound slug gun it shot better from my rifle rest than it did off its sled. Is it no wonder I didn't see one competitor at Raton using a sled? 

My next sled improvement will be to glue leather to the wheels. Also rest plate angle can be varied. Components not growing on trees these days I won't hold my breath.




  

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