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Speaking of 1885s (new low wall .22lr)
Sep 11th, 2026 at 9:15pm
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For the first time in my life, I was invidted to a prvate estate sale.

You'd think that was COOL!

It was NOT!

I had to leave sooooooooo many classics behind.  So, sooo mannnnnyyyyyy.

I did score a Contender in .32 Mag which I am grabbing up next week but most importantly, I got s somewhat sacrilegious Miroku 1885 LW in .22 LR.

This thing I DON'T like about Mirokus is the rather WIDE deviation from the original 1885 trigger group which I CAN work on.  These are...complex.  It's not that I couldn't work on one but I would prefer an original.  

Anyhow, I dialed the trigger down and, sigh, I wonder if I could find a slightly lighter trigger return spring.  (???)  It's decent at around 3 pounds and even though I am perfectly at home with service triggers, 1885s aren't modern service rifles.   I would love this at around 1.5 to 2 lbs force.

Anyhow.  Enough blabbering.

By the way.  This was in the box.
  
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Re: Speaking of 1885s (new low wall .22lr)
Reply #1 - Sep 11th, 2026 at 9:18pm
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By the way.  This was in the box.Sadly the Make, Model and Caliber tag did not survive but the brass inventory tag did.



  
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Re: Speaking of 1885s (new low wall .22lr)
Reply #2 - Sep 11th, 2026 at 9:58pm
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Sacrilegious 1885 Winchester/Miroku LW? Hmmm. I have one and never associated the word "sacrilegious" with it. Finely made piece of goods. I got my trigger down to 1 1/2 pounds. I liked it so much that I added a couple Browning/Miroku LW's to my menagerie: a .223 and a .22 Hornet, both of which are equally delightful little cats.

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Reply #3 - Sep 11th, 2026 at 10:08pm
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You will brook no argument from me.  I have been shooting all types of Miroku guns since the 70s.  I have ZERO complaints.
  
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Reply #4 - Sep 12th, 2026 at 11:32am
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These pictures certainly illustrate the differences between the Miroku LW and an original 1885 low-wall.
The curved top line of the receiver behind the hammer, vs straight on the original, brings the shoulders of the receiver up to the centerline of the bore. 
This makes a much stronger action, sort of a mid-wall.
Chuck
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 12th, 2026 at 11:34am
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Get a trigger from Lee Shaver.
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 12th, 2026 at 11:49am
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Chuckster wrote on Sep 12th, 2026 at 11:32am:
These pictures certainly illustrate the differences between the Miroku LW and an original 1885 low-wall.
The curved top line of the receiver behind the hammer, vs straight on the original, brings the shoulders of the receiver up to the centerline of the bore. 
This makes a much stronger action, sort of a mid-wall.
Chuck


I never thought of it that way, I like it. That subtle design upgrade combined with modern "wonder alloys" makes for a deucedly strong small action. I dream of the day somebody dangles a bare Miroku Low Wall action in front of me so I can build it into a .250-3000, .257 Roberts, or 6.5x55. Like that'll happen, but a boy can dream! (The factory did offer it in 6.5x55 back in the day, but they only built a small handful of them and now they fetch stupid money when they do turn up for for sale.)

Don't get me wrong, my heart is with the vintage single shots that dominate my shooting life, but for hunting and knocking around these Mirokus have my vote. (Not to mention they're wicked accurate and have excellent triggers. I hear so many "negative waves, Moriarty" about Miroku Low Wall triggers but it simply hasn't been my experience at all.)
  
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Re: Speaking of 1885s (new low wall .22lr)
Reply #7 - Sep 12th, 2026 at 9:19pm
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Chuckster wrote on Sep 12th, 2026 at 11:32am:
These pictures certainly illustrate the differences between the Miroku LW and an original 1885 low-wall.
The curved top line of the receiver behind the hammer, vs straight on the original, brings the shoulders of the receiver up to the centerline of the bore. 
This makes a much stronger action, sort of a mid-wall.
Chuck


I had my 1885 Winder hanging close by and, darn it, you are right!  That is sweet!!!!

  
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Re: Speaking of 1885s (new low wall .22lr)
Reply #8 - Sep 27th, 2026 at 11:15am
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RE: 
This thing I DON'T like about Mirokus is the rather WIDE deviation from the original 1885 trigger group which I CAN work on.  These are...complex.  It's not that I couldn't work on one but I would prefer an original.

To this point........
I am so mechanically inept even my kids gave me the nickname
" 'All Thumbs'."

So there came a time where a friend had me work up a load for his Miroko 45-70. Not wanting to return it without a proper cleaning, I took it apart, trigger group and all.

While there are those blessed with the ability to look at something and be able to visualize how the parts work together,
I am NOT so empowered. One day I even had to have Gail Shuttleworth demonstrate how to disassemble and reassemble one of their CPA actions. Pathetic, I know..!

Anyway after a ALL Night session at the bench I finally got it back together. I offer this admission to every other guy who is 'Action & Trigger Group Challenged' by the Miroku or any other individual who has stared at a pile of 1885 parts with regret for having disassembled it in the first place.
  
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Re: Speaking of 1885s (new low wall .22lr)
Reply #9 - yesterday at 10:36pm
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[quote author=616677647767120 link=1789175723/5#5 date=1789227255]Get a trigger from Lee Shaver.[/quote]

The only way I'm aware of to reliably reduce the trigger pull is to have a gunsmith work on the trigger sear & also use a lighter trigger return spring.

You can't get a trigger from Lee Shaver.  You send the trigger with the trigger sear attached from your rifle to Lee along with his fee (don't know what it is now - was $35 at one time).  Lee modifies the sear & sends the trigger/sear back to you with a lighter return spring.

Contact Lee.  He can send you the details & how to remove the trigger/sear.  It's easy.

BTW, it's possible to reduce the factory pull weight a bit (maybe 0.5lbs or so) by replacing the trigger return spring with a shortened ballpoint pen spring.  

There is another way to reduce the trigger pull by adding a custom made screw in front of the stock bolt which I don't recommend.  But you'll have to purchase my book to get the details.   ;)

Wayne
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