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preventing rear bag from moving
Aug 17th, 2026 at 3:30pm
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Today I have another "almost good" target.  This was shot with my Wyoming Armory highwall in 32-40.  It has a relatively heavy trigger ( about 2 lbs ) so it needs quite a hard hold to get it to shoot well.

Sometimes I have a problem with the rear bag moving when the rifle recoils.  We have very nice heavy concrete benches, but the tops are polished.  I made my own "superfeet" for my front rest which keeps it in place.   The rear protektor bag slides in recoil sometimes.  Today was a classic case.  200m.  The first 7 shots into a really nice group 3/4" high and 1-1/8" wide.  Then on shot 8 the rear bag moved and the shot went into the 23 ring high.  I tried to get the rear bag back in the same spot, but it wasn't quite right and the final 2 shots had good elevation, but were right of the original group by a bit.

So what's the way to keep the rear bag still?  It's a fairly heavy Protektor rabbit ears with the flat leather base.  The bench is polished concrete. I was thinking of building a wooden box to elevate the rear bag 1" and add something grippy to the bottom.  Any better ideas?

I have one of those Protektor bag stabilizers.  It's a little grippier but too short.

Chris.

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Reply #1 - Aug 17th, 2026 at 3:39pm
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Here is a picture of the rifle in case anyone wants to see another highwall  Cheesy.

The wood looks much nicer in real life than in my picture.

  
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Reply #2 - Aug 17th, 2026 at 3:41pm
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I have only shot with it twice, but I picked one of these up. Seems to work, but I can't say much about longevity yet.

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Reply #3 - Aug 17th, 2026 at 3:50pm
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Might try waxing your stock a bit and try

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Reply #4 - Aug 17th, 2026 at 3:55pm
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My solution doesn’t totally proven it from moving but I cut a piece of 1/2” plywood just slightly oversized for the bag base and screwed the bag to it at all 4 corners. Then I glued a piece of rubber mouse pad to the bottom. I know a too shooter at Puyallup who added a piece of wood to the bench edge side and he insures it is tight to the bench as well. 

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Reply #5 - Aug 17th, 2026 at 4:40pm
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Slick your bags up with talcum powder and spray the bottom of you bag with the belt dressing. The sticky kind.

I use soap stone dust on my bags to slick them up. Using your jack knife, scrape soapstone over the bags. Beats the heck out of hauling a can of talcum powder around.

Jack, is your wood trick legal? I remember Bev Pinney connected his bags together and I'm perty sure it was not allowed. 

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The bags are not connected together. Just a flat Bottom rear bag with wood base. 

Maybe clamp a steel plate to the bench and use powerful rate earth magnets to stick the bag to it. That probably is not legal.
  

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Reply #7 - Aug 17th, 2026 at 6:23pm
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Corn starch not talcum powder, less apt to clump up.

I have a rubber version of the leather donut, works well, a little thicker. But Not sure where you can find them. That said mouse pad or sheet rubber.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 17th, 2026 at 6:23pm
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My solution to the lower bag trying to “walk around” was to go to the grocery store and get some of the rubbery drain mat they had… it looked like a coarse mesh netting. I glued it to the bottom of my rear bag with rubber cement and the problem was solved.  Like you, gunlaker, I used those no slip feet” under the adjustment screws of my front pedestal. 
Then, to insure the rifle would “ride” the bags with minimal drag, I dusted the bags with baby (talcum) powder.  Again, these two steps improved my groups immensely.
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Reply #9 - Aug 17th, 2026 at 6:44pm
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Ok, I'm going to get a rubber mouse pad and see what I can cook up.

Does talcum powder or soapstone dust cause trouble with nice oil finished stocks?

Thanks for the help.

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Reply #10 - Aug 17th, 2026 at 11:56pm
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In addition to the coments thus far, I draw lines on the bench around the back and side of the bag with a sharpie.
  

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Sorry Jack, I thought you were screwing the wood base to the bench. Maybe it was Fred Gardner doing that?
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The baby powder cleans-up well after done shooting. A friend has a cardboard “template” he uses to always get his front and rear rests in their proper position. Our match rules prohibit anchoring/fastening the rear rest to the bench top.

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Is it kosher to fasten a piece of plywood (with C-clamps) to the top of the bench and plop the bags on that?  15+ years ago I did that when learning a lot about a Stevens-Pope in .22 Short.  It worked well, but I wasn't competing with anyone.
  
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Some sanctioning organizations’ match rules prohibit the shooter from connecting the front and rear rest (which a one piece plywood temporary surface would do), securing either rest onto the bench top or attaching to the bench top a “stop” intended to prevent the movement of either rest, are examples of limitations.

However, if you are not shooting a match or are shooting a match where the rules don’t get into these specific details, then a temporary plywood base for the rests would be helpful.

FWIW

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