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Offhand Technique
Aug 11th, 2026 at 9:53pm
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I know we've discussed, at least within other topics, in the past.  Thought I'd bring it up as a stand alone topic.

What techniques do you use offhand?

I have always used the "jerk the trigger as you swing through the target" technique, more or less.  I try to not jerk the trigger, but pull steadily as I go across the target.  

Lately, in an effort to improve my offhand performance, I've been trying the "hardholder" technique, where I try to rigidly hold the target, and steadily pull the trigger, so when it goes off (usually a surprise to me), it's on the target.  

Using that technique with iron sights, I'm getting just over 10 m.o.a. 10 shot groups, with usually 6 to 8 within 7 m.o.a.  Usually two fliers open up the group.   My objective is to get to 5 moa consistently.    

Using the jerk the trigger technique, I think I get more center hits, but wider flyers.  I get smaller groups using the hardholder, but they're more random and less centers.

What are your techniques, and thoughts on the advantages of them?
  
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Re: Offhand Technique
Reply #1 - Aug 11th, 2026 at 10:41pm
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Dave,
I am the last person to give offhand advice since my technique involves closing my eyes at some point.   
The late Bob Zimmerman was a great offhand shot and he attributed his success to being an industrial electrician and having his arms over his head most of his working life. He also said practicing with a flintlock helped.  RIP Bob

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Reply #2 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 2:50am
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This is from memory, back to 1994 when Jim Fern set the still existing 100 shot OH record at my Jefferson State Schuetzen Society match.

i believe he used a hard hold technique but, he dry fired in the house, every night for at least a hour. He then shot at least a brick of 22rf a week, OH. He was also big on having a rifle with as fast a lock time as was available. he shot a Miller. He said he would never shoot competitively with a hammer rifle.

Besides all that, he shot as many matches as he could get to from the NV area.

It's not something that comes easy and you have to have some natural talent, too.

  

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Reply #3 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 6:15am
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I’m guilty of being long winded will try for a short technique answer. I’ve used three hear’s one.

Offhand Schuetzen, the 100 shot Hudson match holding hard works best. Bullseye target off center laterally cost as much as vertically, pull through not ideal. Best advice is Harry Popes. Quote from memory “ does not take good shots, its the absence of bad shots that make scores”  Harry’s one page offhand lesson is the best ever written.

Years ago i saved 10 targets from one of Charlie Dells matches. Overlaid on a fresh target and made black marks center of each strike. 100 marks told the story. 93 good shots all within 7 moa. Seven out of the group, they took a potential match winning score down to  also ran. If I had put the rifle down and re mounted odds are those seven would have improved to be a potential winner. Don’t pull the trigger on a miss.

Will cover pull through separately 

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Reply #4 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 6:31am
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Pull through, I used this one to improve my High Power and Small bore Silouette shooting. Came to me from David Tubbs first book. 

It worked for couple of reasons, timed match you don’t have time to wait it out. Ram and Pig targets wider than tall lateral error not as important.it works on small chickens and skinny turkeys too “ IF “ The gun needs a very good trigger and you can see the “spot” as it swings into the target.  As I get older shooting iron sight matches have trouble seeing the spot I want the bullet to strike . 

Our club Single Shot Ram Bash matches Shooting iron sights at a chosen spot on the target my long run average was 36 hits on 40 targets 90%.  CF 200 yards RF 75 yards. Target size scaled to present the same visual either match. This won several annual club championships scored best of 5 matches. Now shooting at the whole target average probably 32 80%. And not winning anymore. If I scoped the gun no doubt average would go up. But there not allowed.

David Tubb’s book is the pull through bible.

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Reply #5 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 6:58am
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Last competition. Learning to win is the third piece of puzzle.

You need competition to improve. Few offhand shooters won’t push you to improve. East of the Mississippi with two exceptions not many chances to shoot competitive offhand single shots . Conestoga club in Southampton PA gallery winter time the best. Lots of competition very good shooters. ASSRA targets and format  It’s a long drive for me and winter weather often makes it difficult. I envy you guys out west more competition. Silhouette I traveled west flying every year Single shots it’s all driving.

Our Virginia Ram Bash single shots iron sight matches monthly's. 2  CF 2 RF with a Third club starting RF are well attended. Range capacity’s about 32 average attendance 25 plus. Have turned out some very good shooters.Formats one of the reasons  for the turn out. 4 shooting positions each with a single steel ram shoot 10 shots on one move to the next 4 times

Its squaded 6 shooters to a squad. 3 shoot in turn 10 shots. Off shooters man 2 spotting scopes and a spotting board large drawn ram outline on cork. 3 sets of 10 colored pins. Each shot called by the spotters “hit or miss” and marked with a push pin. Red White and Blue. Shooter can get a look at his strike from the board instant feedback makes for faster learning 

Most matches have ties, settled with a shoot off round. Another learning experience, pressure is on to hit the target.
Last and possibly a key success reason. Pins awarded after the match. 1,2,3rd position and 10 in a row. Gives everyone a goal.

Opps forgot the money half total entry fee paid back to the shooters in cash. It’s a turn out draw for sure.

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Reply #6 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 7:49am
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Would one of you gents please explain the “hard hold” technique. Thanks, Tom
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 8:24am
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You stand still and break the shot when the bullet will hit center.

It’s the standard technique used by Olympic style shooters and many Schuetzen shooters. Best explained in “The Russian Book” it was NRA published after some shooter stole a copy from the Russian Team early 50’s or so the story goes. NRA translated and sold copies. Very expensive used today. Well worth owning.

But, my opinion hard hold depends on a lot. Absolutely perfect stance , Natural Point of aim, right clothing, even down to shoes. There are rules on shoes can’t be stiff flat bottomed . Rifle is stocked to fit, adjustable modern, built to fit the shooter Schuetzen rifles. There are some tricks too. Palm rest support perfectly legal, forward elbow indexed on a stiff wide belt, or the real rule pushers, holster on the belt under a sweatshirt to index the elbow. 

I use some parts of hard hold on approach shooting. NPA for sure and wear stiff sole boots. Elbow fits my hip without any tricks. Often see shooters with soft running soles. Bounce and stand still are not related why do that ?

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Reply #8 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 12:52pm
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The one thing I found that improved my off hand shooting was leaving my spotting scope at home on practice days.  

I still hang a target but once I got used to not being concerned where the bullets went (as long as they were hitting the backstop) and spent my energy concentrating on what was happening at the line, I developed a rhythm and routine that stuck with me when the score counted, and my match scores improved nicely.

(The above assumes that you have a well developed load, sight settings, and good bullets for matches.)
  

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Reply #9 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 8:03pm
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Boats you forgot, “and total focus!”
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 8:17pm
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Dr.J wrote on Aug 12th, 2026 at 7:49am:
Would one of you gents please explain the “hard hold” technique. Thanks, Tom


I'd like to hear it also since it's new to me. 

Is it like tensing up your whole body and holding the rifle extremely tight and rapidly tapping on the trigger? I saw a shooter doing that. He does not like light triggers. 

My old buddy Dave Thorsen used to dislike light triggers. He broke the trigger spring in one of my HWs twice because he refused to set the triggers. I loaned him one of my high power rifles for a match and he broke the extractor on that one.  Dave was Norwegian. 

  

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Reply #11 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 8:22pm
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That’s a good point it’s easy to slip into drifting thoughts. After all multi tasking is the way we operate most of them time these days .

Dodge I use is focus on a downrange object, tree, bush, something simple, block out everything else . Then shift focus to were I want the bullet to strike. All thoughts and eye focus on hitting the spot.  swing the gun into the target and break the shot within a few seconds. If I can’t get the shot off with total focus go through the routine again, and again. Third try I may have to break the shot or run out of time.

Three times no shot and if the match allows put the rifle down relax breathe deep and go through the routine again. Short timed match like silhouette may have to rush the shot. But routine practiced working swift you can usually make it work.


It’s very much like a technique developed for basketball free throws “quiet eye” total focus on the spot for a brief time no over holding. Look it up on line lots of examples in UTube

One more thing ASSRA with sighter target beside record used to dump,one if I couldn’t settle. Now I think its counter productive to dump.

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Reply #12 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 8:42pm
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Everyone would do well to listen to “Boats”, who has been a long-time but seldom-seen acquaintance.  He is a thoughtful shooter, and seems to have studied the game more thoroughly than any other shooter of my acquaintance.. Years ago, I was a good and serious OH competitor (I once beat Olympic Champion Gary Anderson in an OH match) but having a job and raising a family took me out of the game for a while.

I still regard OH shooting as the high point of the shooting game, and lament that I can’t do it anymore.

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Reply #13 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 9:20pm
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Many years ago Jim Feren told me how he got ready for a match. He said you go out there in the desert by yourself, put up a target and get yourself right.

And there you have it!
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Reply #14 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 10:17pm
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Dang Joe,  it is a fairly long drive to the desert from here.
  

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