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Black Powder 200 Yard Shooting
Aug 8th, 2026 at 5:46pm
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After a couple frustrating years of not getting consistently good accuracy with my black powder or duplex loads during the hot dry summer months here in the Arizona desert, I've decided give up on blow tubing and shooting dirty and go back to wiping the bore between shots for my two .32-40 rifles. 
For those black powder target shooters among us, is there anyone who can recommend a good water soluble lubricant that I can use to mix with water for damp wiping patches?
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Re: Black Powder 200 Yard Shooting
Reply #1 - Aug 8th, 2026 at 6:22pm
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I'm a big believer in wiping between shots.
 
I have had the best results with a mixture of 10% to 30% NAPA cutting oil and water.  I wring out the patches using a potato ricer tool.  Be careful of how wet they are. Better to use more patches that are just damp than fewer patches that are soaking wet.

My 32-40's worked best to patch them with a couple of damp patches, then one dry, followed by one that was ever so lightly oiled with ballistol.   I haven't really been messing with BP in my 32-40's in recent years, but plan to start again very soon. 

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Reply #2 - Aug 8th, 2026 at 6:33pm
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My second single shot rifle was a 45-70 Shiloh Business Rifle with a LONG throat/leade.  I worked up my best load using the NEI 349C bullet with a 'scraper' groove that I filled with lube (SPG).  Using Goex ctg powder I could regularly shoot sub 2" 200 yd 5 shot groups off the bench using an MVA tang sight.  I really regret selling that rifle.  I remember winning the 300yd match at Tacoma where sitting using cross sticks was the only position allowed and you had to have one hand on the sticks.  I shot a 97 3X to beat the best shooter at that time by one x. I used a blow tube exclusively.
That was the only rifle I had besides a trapdoor so I got very good at shooting it.
  

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Reply #3 - Aug 8th, 2026 at 7:59pm
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Jack if you ever want to get a Shiloh back that'll shoot like it's a magic, get a 1:16 twist 40-65.  Mine has shot lots of 10 shot sub-moa groups at 200 and a number at 300 in calm conditions with the Saeco #740 bullet.
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 8th, 2026 at 8:21pm
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Chris,
I have 2 38-55 High Walls and a 40-65 high wall.  All originals with newer barrels.  My goal is together them shooting like that.  I just have too many rifles that I want to shoot!
  

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Reply #5 - Aug 8th, 2026 at 8:50pm
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I hear you guys talking....
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 8th, 2026 at 8:52pm
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10% water soluble oil and 90% Volvo a antifreeze mixed 50/50 with water 1 damp snug fitting felt patch. Works well in all temperatures and distances to 1200yards+.



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Reply #7 - Aug 8th, 2026 at 9:00pm
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One of the "Big Kids" there in AZ. told me to use Sta-Lube. Of course it can not be shipped to AK. where I am.

  

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Reply #8 - Aug 8th, 2026 at 10:31pm
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Wes,
You are the only guy that really enjoys offhand shooting.  Us old farts need to shoot bench.  As I get older I may have to mount a sight on the butt end of my BP rifles and shoot from a back rest position.  I just need to get a hospital bed into the back of my pickup.
In the interim, I will shoot my 38-55 and possibly my 40-65 at the range next Thursday and post the targets.

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Reply #9 - Aug 8th, 2026 at 10:52pm
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I hear you guys talking about your minute of angle groups with BP....
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 8th, 2026 at 11:37pm
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Did I say minute of angle?  I meant to say minute of anvil.  My bad.
  

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I use a mix of 70% rubbing alcohol,  Murphy oil soap, and castor oil. I started with the alcohol because it evaporates fast in a hot barrel, and seems to be cleaner.

I switched to patches I made from microfiber rags too
  
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Reply #12 - yesterday at 9:29am
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I don't mean to imply that these rifles will shoot minute of angle all the time, but they will on a good day.  In the old days, when black powder or duplex shooting was the norm, some pretty excellent targets were put up.  Since smokeless is without a doubt better, anyone serious about accuracy has generally switched to it.  I've read of two  different accounts of black powder 250's scored in modern times.  Both with Shiloh Sharps rifles but not at a match I believe.  They were reported in either the Black Powder Cartridge News or The Single Shot Exchange, I don't remember which.  I think if more people put serious effort into it, you'd see some impressive results.  Not as good as smokeless, but better than what most people believe is possible with black powder.

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Re: Black Powder 200 Yard Shooting
Reply #13 - yesterday at 11:28am
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I use NAPA water soluble cutting oil mixed 1-10 with water.  dampened bore pig that have a faucet washer to squeegee the excess moisture off, followed by a dry patch. But I know a number of BP shooters who have great results using M-Pro 7 mixed with water to wipe between shots and say it's better than anything they've tried.
I'm a duffer, and cheap, so the NAPA is my choice.
  

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Reply #14 - yesterday at 12:29pm
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Wes,
Your BP offhand can shoot 1 MOA if it is this species.
  

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