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Aug 6th, 2026 at 10:59am
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I have a barrel that started life as a 32-40 Remington, .308” groove. Some genius re chambered it in 30-40 Krag. Other than limiting it to very light bullets for a very large cartridge, the chamber seems to line up with the bore,

The question is to those that have had barrels re bored, how well does it work out if the new bore size does not eliminate the chamber?

I’ve thought about going to possibly 35 Krag, that would seem to make alignment critical. 

40-50 straight seems like a better option and of course is an original chambering. But the new chamber would not completely replace the old.

Just wondering what kind of success others have had?
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 11:24am
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What rifle? What's its intended purpose?

I would consider the .35 re-bore route first. If the chamber is in alignment with the bore as you say it is there shouldn't be a problem for a skilled operator to nail it. .35 Krag is a pretty useful cartridge, depending on the rifle's end use hence my original question.
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 11:42am
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gnoahhh wrote on Aug 6th, 2026 at 11:24am:
What rifle? What's its intended purpose?

I would consider the .35 re-bore route first. If the chamber is in alignment with the bore as you say it is there shouldn't be a problem for a skilled operator to nail it. .35 Krag is a pretty useful cartridge, depending on the rifle's end use hence my original question.


Rifle is a Hepburn. 
Purpose is entertainment, needs to be fun to shoot. So recoil might be a factor. I doubt there would be a much difference between the two. Reasonable accuracy and easy to load for.

Resale is always a factor.

I’m considering JES. I’m sure once some one gets the barrel, it can be checked and it becomes clear if it can work or not, which has a better chance of success.

Really just looking for feedback on success or failure and why.
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 12:06pm
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I would talk this over with Jess and go with his assessment. My guess is that a 35 Krag will be the best way forward. Cast or jacketed bullets for 35 Remington are not hard to source or make.

A cartridge that doesn't clean up the original chamber sends one down the wildcat road, potentially very expensive solution to any problem.

It's a mystery to me why people do some of the things they do. I had an 8X58 Sauer that some subgenius opened up to .323 and rifled 1:36. The only thing it would shoot even nearly satisfactorily was 000 Buck and that was minute of barn at 50 yards.
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 12:09pm
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I believe that the Hepburn was chambered in 30/40 originally if there is nothing wrong with the barrel, I would leave it that way. Your never going to make it original again and the 30/40 can be very accurate and with much less recoil than a 35 or 40 cal.

In my first year (1985) of collecting and match shooting, a HW in 30/40 was one of my first 4 rifles. It was and still is very accurate. 

I almost, only shot it BSed with just a straight, push seater and RL 187 gr tapered bullet but, did shoot some full power jacket fixed ammo too.

I mostly shot cast with a reduced capacity, machined case, with just a 5/16 hole, back to the primer pocket, with that, it shot as well as any 32/40 on the line. I also shot with factory cases and using 14.0 gr 4227 and 17.0 gr 4759 fixed (lower right in last target), it also shot very well.

With match jacket bullets (168 & 190) it shot as well as any match 308 in the '90's.

Here are some targets that I shot. First target is 200 yds, the rest are 100.
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Reply #5 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 12:34pm
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What twist is the barrel now?  I am like Frank, the 30-40 is a very accurate cast bullet shooter and does not have near the recoil of a 35 or 40 caliber. I shoot an Accurate Molds 200 grain long bore rider bullet in both my High 
wall and Borchardt rifles and they are fun to shoot.  I have taken deer and elk with my Borchardt with 200 Grain Nosler Partitions.  My 2 cents but the fact that pennies are obsolete my opinion is not worth much!  Tom
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 12:45pm
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The original 32-40 Remington twist is 1/16, bore is marginal. So as is it’s a 30-40 Krag limited to about 165 grain bullets. Might have been able to go longer with a better bore.

Boring it out to 35 Krag would replace the shoulder and neck with a new reamer. 

The  40-50 the chamber would be cut off just in front of the neck body junction with slightly less taper. The chamber might actual clean up in a perfect world.

In theory, I could also go to a 32 caliber. Certainly wouldn’t be the strangest cartridge is shoot.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 1:17pm
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JES does 33 cal too, I believe. 

I think I would go 33 before I would do 35 cal.
  

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frnkeore wrote on Aug 6th, 2026 at 1:17pm:
JES does 33 cal too, I believe. 

I think I would go 33 before I would do 35 cal.


Yes, they offer 330/338. Not sure of the twist. 

That’s a little more interesting.
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 1:43pm
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Used to be a guy in a wheelchair at Glasgow MT who used a Hepburn in 30-40. He kicked ass with that rifle. I have two rifles chambered in 32-40 Krag. Kind of like a sooped up 32 Special.
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 2:17pm
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Dellet wrote on Aug 6th, 2026 at 10:59am:
I have a barrel that started life as a 32-40 Remington, .308” groove. Some genius re chambered it in 30-40 Krag. Other than limiting it to very light bullets for a very large cartridge, the chamber seems to line up with the bore,

The question is to those that have had barrels re bored, how well does it work out if the new bore size does not eliminate the chamber?

I’ve thought about going to possibly 35 Krag, that would seem to make alignment critical. 

40-50 straight seems like a better option and of course is an original chambering. But the new chamber would not completely replace the old.

Just wondering what kind of success others have had?


A good gunsmith can bore the chamber out and line it; then bore the whole barrel out and install whatever liner you like and rechamber it.
  

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Reply #11 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 3:20pm
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The chamber can be bored larger; sleeved and rebored back to the original chamber.

Yes you can rebore to a larger caliber but note:

9 out of 10 American barrels can be rebored straight.

1 out of 10 European barrels that are hammer forged can be rebored straight due to variations in hardness of the steel in the barrel.
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 3:49pm
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One of my favorite rifles for 200 meter cowboy silhouette is a one piece stocked HiWall in 30-40 with a sporter weight  barrel. The barrel is probably a cut down military, so a 10 twist which likes a heavy cast bullet (311284 - 214 grain) which Lyman said was for the 30-40 and I guess they were correct. Load is 19.8 grains of 4198. I don't see why a 30-40 case and a lighter bullet in a slower twist barrel would be a problem to work up a good load for.
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Reply #13 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 4:20pm
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It was my understanding that when you rechamber, it can’t be any shorter than the current chamber,  that it would have to basically go to the lands. So in this case, nothing shorter than around 2.35. In theory I could rechamber in 32-40 Remington and be back to original chamber and a mediocre bore. Seems like a lot of work for not much gain.

If the chamber could be sleeve LE the the whole thing be bored and chambered it would probably be easier to just rebarrel..
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 10:26pm
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Looking at stability calculators online (I am not a great ballistician by any means) it looks like a .310 caliber cast bullet 0f 175 grains 1" long is stable at 1700 fps.  Accurate Molds 31-175 G looks like a good bore riding design.  You could have them shorten the bore riding section 0.050 t0 0.100 to be sure of low velocity stability.  You can customize any dimension to your liking.  It is a shorter version of the 31-200L bullet that I shoot in my 1:10 twist 30/40 rifles.  The cost of a mold is way cheaper than a rebore and you might have a tack driver already.  Tom
  
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