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Help with 32-40 Hepburn
Aug 1st, 2026 at 9:10pm
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Was at the range today and shot my 32-40 Rem Hepburn with less than satisfactory results. Anyone shoot this caliber and if so what is a good load to try. I am shooting a 150gr bore riding bullet. I bought these and I think it is a RCBS bullet design. Using  IMR 4198 and standard primers. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.



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Re: Help with 32-40 Hepburn
Reply #1 - Aug 2nd, 2026 at 3:35pm
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A little more information might result in some helpful suggestions. What is the bullet mold number you are using? What is the bullet's sized diameter. What is the hardness of the bullets or what is their composition(lead to tin)?What is the  powder charge weight? What kind of velocities are you getting? Are the bullets tumbling as shown on impact to the target?
  
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Re: Help with 32-40 Hepburn
Reply #2 - Aug 2nd, 2026 at 6:39pm
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Is your Hepburn chambered for the 32-40 Remington
or is it the 32-40 BMW (Ballard,Marlin,Win)?
The 32-40 Rem, is a true 30 cal with nom 0.300/0.308
The 32-40 BMW is a true 32 cal, nom 0.319 or so groove dia

I can tell you that I am shooting my 32-40 Remington/8 twist
with 15.5 gr 4227 under the Lyman 311299, 200 gr bullet 
to good accuracy.
my 32-40 BMW uses 14.5 gr 4227 under 200 gr Hoch 322-200 bullet
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Re: Help with 32-40 Hepburn
Reply #3 - Aug 2nd, 2026 at 7:38pm
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Since you're shooting a 150 grain bullet I suppose it's the Remington version, and not the Marlin Ballard that would usually be a 170 grain bullet?
I wonder when you say "bore rider bullet" do you mean it's sized for the bore, not the groove diameter? If it's truly a bore rider then that could be the issue. I'd want a bullet sized to the groove and maybe even .001"-.002" over groove to see if that improves accuracy.
  

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Re: Help with 32-40 Hepburn
Reply #4 - Aug 3rd, 2026 at 9:10pm
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Ok I have the true Hepburn (Bore is 30 cal.) I am shooting a 200gr bullet that I mistakenly said was a 150gr. I bought these bullets some time ago from an online store. They have a red lubricant. My load is 14gr of IMR 4198. I got this load from an old copy of the Obsolete Cartridges of the World book. I used 4198 because I have plenty on hand and it was listed. I did not check velocity because I forgot to take my chronograph. I did notice the 4198 in a small bore burns kind of dirty. I think I fired 30 rounds to completely fire form my new brass. Just looking for some better powder recommendations. I have a 200gr Accurate mold on hand but have not tried it yet. It is listed as 31-200LP in their catalog.


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Reply #5 - Aug 3rd, 2026 at 9:18pm
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You might want to double check your twist, a 30 caliber 200 grain bullet is getting pretty long for a 1/16 twist.
  
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Re: Help with 32-40 Hepburn
Reply #6 - yesterday at 12:51am
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Sorry I forgot to list the twist. It is a 1 in 10 twist standard .308 bore...





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Re: Help with 32-40 Hepburn
Reply #7 - yesterday at 9:00am
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Load data in Lyman cast bullets manual has a few more powders, for what it’s worth their starting load is 16 grains @ 1350 for IMR 4198. Max 20 grains.
More powder will create a more complete burn.

Beltfeds 4227 loads will certainly be cleaner no matter what.

Yes, the Lyman data is for the wrong 32-40, but still a reasonable reference point.
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Re: Help with 32-40 Hepburn
Reply #8 - yesterday at 12:46pm
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Are you saying its an original factory Hepburn barrel, in 32/40 Remington cartridge with a 1-10 twist?

My original Hepburn 3240 shoots a 156 grain very well.

How did you make brass? I have a set of RCBS case forming dies that includes a neck reaming die and as I recall I had to use it to get the brass back to around .010” so rounds would chamber.
  
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Re: Help with 32-40 Hepburn
Reply #9 - yesterday at 3:12pm
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You still haven't mentioned groove diameter, nor bullet diameter. If you're just using some old cast lead .308" bullets they may be too small. These old Remingtons can run up as large as .310" groove on their .3-40 Hepburns.
  

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Re: Help with 32-40 Hepburn
Reply #10 - yesterday at 3:32pm
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The gun has a new 1 in 10 twist .308 /.300 bore barrel. The bullet dia is .310. I have an Accurate mold that I haven't tried yet for a .310 200gr bullet. The brass was formed in a set of RCBS dies. This was the first time I fired this brass. I didn't have to turn the necks or ream them and they fit the chamber just fine. I left the bullets a little long and seat them with a home made tool I came up with. I am going to try some 4227 the next time and see what it does.



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Reply #11 - yesterday at 4:24pm
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try to get the bullet to just barely touch the beginning of the rifling. I once tried to experiment with bullets seated pretty well out and later it was discovered that some just shoved further into the case while others seated at the length they had been assembled at. Of course, this gave all manner of different seating depths. Better to avoid that trouble and either crimp (bad idea) or settle for just touching. The black powder folk get away with your method due to two things- a case full of powder that prevents further seating depth and a soggy alloy that your commercial bullets likely haven't got. 
When I tried that powder of yours, it was dirty, but decent accuracy. Change to 4227 and cleaner and more accurate results came quickly. good luck
  
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Reply #12 - yesterday at 4:53pm
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You can set a roll crimp die up to roll into a groove. This is where consistent trim length pays off. You can roll into the groove, but the bullet is loose enough to spin. That way the bullet is not deformed.

Then you can seat the bullet int the lands.
  
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Re: Help with 32-40 Hepburn
Reply #13 - yesterday at 6:16pm
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The vast majority of my single shots shoot best barely kissing the rifling, but I have found some that shot better not quite touching the rifling. No idea why, but it works on some.
Sometimes a new gun or new barrel takes a lot of load workup, and sometimes the right load is the first one tried. Then I waste time trying other loads that aren't as accurate before going back to the first one.
  

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Re: Help with 32-40 Hepburn
Reply #14 - yesterday at 6:52pm
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JHM
It is noted that I have been shooting exactly similar rifle
a Browning BPCR with 10 twist Hart barrel, 0.300/0.308
chambered in "tight neck" Dan Theodore reamer cal
32-40 Remington. I am using reformed 303 British R-P brasa

I developed my load based on the Starting Load for the 30-30win in the Lyman $4 CBH.  because the case capacity is almost exactly the same as the 32-40Rem.
The 173 gr 311041 30-30 Starting load is `15.5 gr IMR 4227
for 1615fps and 23700psi.  
Max is 17.7gr 4227, 1803fps/ 32000psi

I figured that the starting load was safe enough to use under
my 311299 /200gr bullet that seats very shallow in the 32-40 rem case. And it was for ME...

The starting load for the 30-30  /173 gr bullet is
18 grains of IMR 4198. 1602fps/23200psi......

I suspect that your initial 14 grain load is not burning very well because it is WAY under decent pressure to burn well
I think you should work your way up the ladder......
and your Hepburn is quite strong...
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