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Whitney Phoenix Survey
Jun 30th, 2026 at 9:26am
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Hello all, long time lurker and new forum member. I am conducting a survey on Whitney Phoenix rifles and shotguns trying to find out exactly how many were manufactured. I have found differing accounts on the number made. Currently I have 62 firearms recorded with the highest serial being 6692. 

If any members here have a Phoenix I would like to add then to the survey. The information I am looking for is as follows:

-Serial number (If you do not feel comfortable listing this in the thread please PM me)
-Caliber
-Barrel Length
-Extractor Style (There are two styles, an extractor on the left of the barrel shank and one on the bottom)
-Stock style
-Barrel Shape
-Sight Configuration
-Other Interesting Information

I currently have two Phoenixes in my collection, one I picked up as just an action that I am slowly building into a 44-77 and the other in 38 RF.

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Re: Whitney Phoenix Survey
Reply #1 - Jun 30th, 2026 at 10:58am
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When I have sometime, I will pass on the info you want on my Whitney Phoenix Schutzen rifle.  #6624.


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Re: Whitney Phoenix Survey
Reply #2 - Jun 30th, 2026 at 1:30pm
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Back to my Whitney.
28” barrel  gain twist, 28 to 19
38/50 Ballard everlasting
Extractor, pivot mounted on the right side of barrel. Block opens to the right then actuates the extractor which is on the left.
Schutzen style stock, cheek wrest hooked butt plate.
Extra fancy wood. Forearm and stock checkered.
Half round half octagon.
5” staff Whitney non soul tang sight.
Spirit level wind gauge front sight

A couple months ago there was a thread on Whitney rifles. People posted some pictures of their rifles. I was one of them

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Re: Whitney Phoenix Survey
Reply #3 - Jun 30th, 2026 at 5:00pm
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Thank you for your information, I have added your rifle to the survey. I will try and find the thread you speak of.
  
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Re: Whitney Phoenix Survey
Reply #4 - Jun 30th, 2026 at 8:44pm
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Mine is #1499 with the extractor on the bottom. It has been rebarreled to 40-60 Maynard (Krag) and restocked.
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 30th, 2026 at 9:39pm
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I have at least one in the works.  Serial #6244.  It was originally a 12ga and the muzzle when I got it resembled a blunderbus, the fella I got it from said that it was used for shooting fish, don't know any of the rest of the story.  I removed the barrel and right now it sports a Badger in 40 cal, chambered in 40-60 Win.  I made a new bottom extractor and that still needs a couple of finish cuts.
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Re: Whitney Phoenix Survey
Reply #6 - Jul 1st, 2026 at 11:33am
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I have a Phoenix Schuetzen s/n 4965 in some .44 caliber. I also have a Creedmoor S/n 3191. I have seen a few others over the years, but no many
  
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Re: Whitney Phoenix Survey
Reply #7 - Jul 1st, 2026 at 12:38pm
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Thank you all for your information, I have added it to the list. TRowe do you happen to remember what caliber your Creedmoor is in? Also your Schuetzen is the first I have recorded in the 4000-5000 serial range. I also found the thread with the pictures and there are some very beautiful rifles on display there. I will attempt to take some photos of mine today and share with you all.
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 1st, 2026 at 1:21pm
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Got a link to that thread, Rafter?
  
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Reply #9 - Jul 1st, 2026 at 8:38pm
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Here is a few of the threads I found,

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I have also attached (hopefully) a couple images of my complete Phoenix in 38 Extra Long RF. Serial #626

  
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Re: Whitney Phoenix Survey
Reply #10 - Aug 13th, 2026 at 8:20pm
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I have shotgun #6285

12 GA
Barrel: 32”
Chocked: MODIFIED

Barrel marked:  PATENT MAY.26.74 PHOENIX.CAL.12

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Reply #11 - Aug 14th, 2026 at 6:24pm
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Thank you for the information on your shotgun. I have added it to the survey.
  
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Re: Whitney Phoenix Survey
Reply #12 - Aug 15th, 2026 at 11:00pm
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The one I have restoring is number 5767 it is marked 38 Cal CF it accepts a 357 maximum case so I believe it’s a 38 extra long. I got it when the JM Davis museum was selling their surplus stuff. Still haven’t figured out how to resize pictures nowadays on the form anyways over the years I’ve made several shotguns in the rifles, several4570s and one 4065.
  
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Re: Whitney Phoenix Survey
Reply #13 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 6:04pm
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rodneys wrote on Aug 15th, 2026 at 11:00pm:
The one I have restoring is number 5767 it is marked 38 Cal CF it accepts a 357 maximum case so I believe it’s a 38 extra long. I got it when the JM Davis museum was selling their surplus stuff. Still haven’t figured out how to resize pictures nowadays on the form anyways over the years I’ve made several shotguns in the rifles, several4570s and one 4065.


  You got a .45-70 original from me at the old Denver show long ago too Rodney! Must be long gone now?
  
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Re: Whitney Phoenix Survey
Reply #14 - Aug 16th, 2026 at 8:53pm
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Val yes I had forgotten about that one. Yeah it’s long gone. I have a fascination with them, but it seems like somebody always talks me out of them back in the mid 80s. I built one from scratch. I had a guy with a pattern torch cut out the outline of the receiver built it up into a long range. Like the one in Grant‘s book.I wonder where it is now.
  
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