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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2625 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #30 - Jul 6^th, 2026 at 6:58pm	Print Post
	Bob, I've never tried to swap original tangs into a C. Sharps, or the other way around, but I did once try to swap tangs between two of my CSA 1885's ( a straight grip and a pistol grip ) and it was a complete no-go. The dimensions were different enough that it was impossible to slide them into the action. It wasn't even close, so I expect that there is a fair bit of hand fitting done to these. Chris.


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2127 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #31 - Jul 6^th, 2026 at 9:13pm	Print Post
	gunlaker wrote on Jul 6^th, 2026 at 6:58pm: Bob, I've never tried to swap original tangs into a C. Sharps, or the other way around, but I did once try to swap tangs between two of my CSA 1885's ( a straight grip and a pistol grip ) and it was a complete no-go. The dimensions were different enough that it was impossible to slide them into the action. It wasn't even close, so I expect that there is a fair bit of hand fitting done to these. Chris. I must not have been clear on the comparison. These are both original Winchester actions. Vall had asked if there was any difference between the two actions as it pertains to the wide double set trigger lower tang. The take-down is the coil spring version. The blued action is the flat spring version. But, both are original high-walls. Bob


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2625 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #32 - Jul 6^th, 2026 at 9:14pm	Print Post
	Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding. Chris


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2127 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #33 - Jul 6^th, 2026 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	No problem. I will, at some point try to interchange them and I suspect they will slide together but the seam lines will not match. Bob


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1831 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #34 - Jul 6^th, 2026 at 11:26pm	Print Post
	All three different tangs (st, ccdst, wsdst) from original high walls will interchange with another high wall receiver although as Bob W says, there might be a little bit of a difference in matching near the bottom of the receiver where the tang slides in. They were all hand polished and some will be visibly different where they mate up when switched to another receiver. Correct sear will have to be changed to whatever trigger is put into the action.


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3995 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #35 - Jul 7^th, 2026 at 2:33pm	Print Post
	bobw wrote on Jul 6^th, 2026 at 9:18pm: No problem. I will, at some point try to interchange them and I suspect they will slide together but the seam lines will not match. Bob That is the only thing I saw in the few I switched around, just to see. Never did it to make a change, just to see if it'd work. What gave me the notion was that almost every other part swapped freely, why not the tang? Second, it that one of my favorites has a trigger switched out by some prior owner. Obvious, in that the rifle had been a schuetzen and sombody building something like a 'modern' varminter had robbed the originals and they were replaced by a single set straight stock tang utilizing the original p.g stock with wood carved away. Just as it still is these many years.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18098 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #36 - Jul 7^th, 2026 at 2:43pm	Print Post
	One more question on the 1885 rifles. If I remove my SST lower tang and install a DST lower tang do I need to change the sear or anything else? Do the SST and DST parts all work fine beyond just the tang and triggers that I'd replace?

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3820 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #37 - Jul 7^th, 2026 at 2:45pm	Print Post
	Vall, You will need the 'long tail' sear with the DST set. This assumes you have a complete DST lower tang. The hammer, block and lever are the same. Jack

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guilty gil Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Livingston mt. Joined: Feb 5^th, 2021	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #38 - Jul 7^th, 2026 at 4:30pm	Print Post
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18098 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #39 - Jul 7^th, 2026 at 6:17pm	Print Post
	bpjack wrote on Jul 7^th, 2026 at 2:45pm: Vall, You will need the 'long tail' sear with the DST set. This assumes you have a complete DST lower tang. The hammer, block and lever are the same. Jack I don't have a tang at all Jack, but considering buying a complete tang from either MVA or C Sharps for my Bremer High Wall. MVA sells them for $210 for a PG tang, but unsure if that's just the bare tang, and I'd need triggers, springs, pins, etc.? So looks like I'll need to also ask about the long sear. The SST just looks lonely inside the DST lever.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3820 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #40 - Jul 7^th, 2026 at 6:50pm	Print Post
	Here is the bad news $391

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3820 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #41 - Jul 7^th, 2026 at 10:54pm	Print Post
	Maybe you should trade levers with me Vall. I have some spare ST levers.

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EVR Participating Member Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2026	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #42 - yesterday at 5:58pm	Print Post
	gunlaker wrote on Jul 6^th, 2026 at 6:55pm: Are you saying that C. Sharps advised you to cock the hammer before lowering the block on an 1885? I've owned a number of them and still have a few and this thread is the first I've heard of it. They definitely didn't advise me of anything like that. I've been shooting them for nearly 20 years I think, and have never had a problem with a broken or damaged firing pin. Even the one that drags on the case heads a little works perfectly otherwise. Now on the 1874's that is different. You absolutely need to cock the hammer before lowering or raising the breech block. Chris. That's my understanding. We were talking about a number of actions at the time and maybe I got things confused. I've emailed for clarification. I just don't see how the hammer would need to be set back at all by looking at the diagrams (I do not have a rifle yet). Unless there was a significant machining error on the spur or something. Not sure.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18098 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #43 - Today at 10:30am	Print Post
	bpjack wrote on Jul 7^th, 2026 at 10:54pm: Maybe you should trade levers with me Vall. I have some spare ST levers. Might be the easiest/cheapest fix. But this lever isn't 100% original. It had been hacked and I repaired it back to original appearance. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3995 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Questions C Sharps Arms 1885 Reply #44 - Today at 3:31pm	Print Post
	maybe you could fool some folks by simply super-gluing a false trigger behind the real one. I like single sets just fine, 'deed I do!


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