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SILVERTIP Participating Member Offline Posts: 45 Location: Mtns of New Mexico & Alabama Joined: Oct 1^st, 2017	Bullet size bore wear-22 Hornet Yesterday at 4:44am	Print Post
	Early barrels in Winchester rifles favored .223 jacketed bullets. Will use of .224 jacketed bullets at 22 Hornet velocities cause undue wear to the bore? Rifle in question applies to a Model 54, but it will also apply to a Low Wall in 22 Hornet with .223 size bore. Jacketed bullets again.

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4480 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Bullet size bore wear-22 Hornet Reply #1 - yesterday at 11:14am	Print Post
	.223 Hornet bullets (40 and 45 grain) are made by Sierra and Hornady and easily available. Why not use the ones that were made for the Hornet?


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gnoahhh Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1067 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: Bullet size bore wear-22 Hornet Reply #2 - yesterday at 12:32pm	Print Post
	Don't sweat it. That silly little .001" won't matter. .224 bullets shoot more accurately to boot in my .223 bores (Browning Low Wall & a Winchester 54) than .223 bullets do. (13.0gr. Lil Gun + 40 Vmax in both)


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3981 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Bullet size bore wear-22 Hornet Reply #3 - yesterday at 2:17pm	Print Post
	My old Sako (made like a small Mauser action) showed distinct pressure jumps using its ordinary load when I used the silly thousandth bigger bullets. Brass life was abysmal due to that when I persisted- soon learned and went back to plain vanilla recipes. Get the Hornady. Heck, why not, you are buying boxes of bullets the right ones cost the same as the trouble makers.


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gnoahhh Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1067 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: Bullet size bore wear-22 Hornet Reply #4 - yesterday at 5:42pm	Print Post
	I'll not dispute your observations, but the fact is I get zero pressure signs and stupid long case life (Norma brass admittedly) with that stiff/max load of 13 gr. Lil Gun and 40 Vmax. (Not to mention 1/2MOA accuracy in both guns at a measured 3100 fps.) I have never experienced bore wear or pressure issues in a the 1/2 dozen or so Hornets I've owned and shot extensively (yes, I'm a Hornet slut), all of which possessed .223 bores and rarely did I bother with .223 bullets. The clouds really opened up and the sun came out when Lil Gun came on the market. Perhaps the ghosts of Wotkyns, Whelen, Woody, et al smiled on me the whole time, who knows.


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bullshop Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 397 Joined: Sep 14^th, 2017	Re: Bullet size bore wear-22 Hornet Reply #5 - yesterday at 6:24pm	Print Post
	I would think that as long as the load is developed with the specific bullet diameter to be used it should be fine with either diameter. I can see where developing a load using the .223" diameter then simply switching to the .224" diameter without adjusting the load could cause pressure issues.


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3981 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Bullet size bore wear-22 Hornet Reply #6 - Today at 9:50am	Print Post
	To clarify: the loads were notably higher in pressure, but not alarming. Just that the life of the brass was shorter, and the stuff wasn't always cheaply replenished. My then young granddaughter shot the thing mercilessly because it had become 'her' gun and I allowed it. Powders were the usual olden days loads not the ball powders some are fond of. Never came home with a jug of Lil Gun for anything. Maybe I ought to have. by the way, she still has that rifle as far as I know. I hope she gets her young son shooting that one.


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bullshop Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 397 Joined: Sep 14^th, 2017	Re: Bullet size bore wear-22 Hornet Reply #7 - Today at 11:47am	Print Post
	Personally I shoot only cast bullets in my 22 Hornet. Bullet diameter is .225". I have never bothered to slug the bore because it has never been an issue. My rifle is from the depression era and typical of the time built on an 1898 Springfield action. For that reason I suspect a .223" groove diameter and for sure it is 1/16" twist. I have never run into pressure issues because I stay way clear of max. My best loads push a 50gn cast bullet to 2100 fps give or take. Max bullet weight for my rifle has been 53 grain from a CBE mold. The 1/16" twist is said to not shoot well with over about a 45 gn bullet but that reference is to jacketed bullets which are generally longer than a cast bullet of the same weight. 2100 fps may sound anemic but that load is about 600 fps faster and with a heavier bullet than the once popular 22 WCF which the hornet is based on.


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