Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 Send TopicPrint
Normal Topic Effectively fireforming .32-40 cases (Read 204 times)
Smoke
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 854
Location: San Diego
Joined: Feb 24th, 2013
Effectively fireforming .32-40 cases
Jun 20th, 2026 at 8:32pm
Print Post  
I need to fireform 100 .32-40 cases.  The current plan is to use a 200gr Spitzer and 15 gr 4759.

Which would be more effective:

1: Firing loaded rounds, the bullet taper crimped with the sizing die.

2: Breech seated bullet, charged, primed case with as much of a bell to the mouth that I can still insert the case with a dowel to seat it in the chamber.

3: A variation on one of the above or a method I haven't thought of (including using a different powder).

The rifle is a Falling Block Works Model K.

Thanks

« Last Edit: Jun 20th, 2026 at 8:58pm by Smoke »  

I refuse to spend my life worrying about what I eat. There is no pleasure worth foregoing just for an extra 3 years in the geriatric ward. John Mortimer
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
JHand
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 248
Joined: Apr 15th, 2024
Re: Effectively fireforming .32-40 cases
Reply #1 - yesterday at 2:24pm
Print Post  
What's the end goal? If you're going to use the cases as fixed ammo, fire form them that way. If you are planning on breach seating, form them that way
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Oldman1950
Senior Forum Member
****
Offline



Posts: 271
Location: Virginia
Joined: Feb 8th, 2014
Re: Effectively fireforming .32-40 cases
Reply #2 - yesterday at 3:03pm
Print Post  
I have fired formed many 32-40 as well as other cases by the following method.
Load primer as normal, fill case with about 7-10 grs of fast shotgun powder (I use 700x) and fill the remainer of the case with cream of wheat leaving enough room for a thin floral foam wad.
shoot them in a safe direction.
You should now have fire formed cases.

A. J. Palik
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
calledflyer
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 3976
Joined: Mar 9th, 2015
Re: Effectively fireforming .32-40 cases
Reply #3 - yesterday at 4:17pm
Print Post  
At the levels we all use for .32-40, no need to fireform them- just load 'em up and start shooting. Repeated shots will finish them if needed as long as you never full length size. 
For breech seat, a little flare to seal the mouth is a good idea, and if shooting fixed, just kiss the neck if needed- done right a case might not need any sizing if bullet is a snug fit in the neck.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Smoke
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 854
Location: San Diego
Joined: Feb 24th, 2013
Re: Effectively fireforming .32-40 cases
Reply #4 - yesterday at 9:22pm
Print Post  
I should have started this thread by saying that I've already tried fireforming these cases with breech seated 148 gr bullets. 13.5 gr 4227, and a belled mouth.

The cases came out blackened back past the mid point because they didn't expand enough. 

So I cleaned up the cases and fired some loaded rounds with 187 gr spitzers backed by 13.5 gr 4759, which produced only slightly more recoil than a .22 RF.  The fired cases are still showin leakage back along the case.

For my next step I've belled the cases to the point where I can just push them into the chamber.  These I'll fire breech seated, with 15.5 gr of 4759 and a 200 gr bullet.   

Hopefully this will do the job.  I want to shoot this at Raton next month and I want to have 100 primed and charged cases for benchrest matches.
  

I refuse to spend my life worrying about what I eat. There is no pleasure worth foregoing just for an extra 3 years in the geriatric ward. John Mortimer
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
calledflyer
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 3976
Joined: Mar 9th, 2015
Re: Effectively fireforming .32-40 cases
Reply #5 - Today at 10:10am
Print Post  
Yes, that last info would have been helpful. I, too ought to have mentioned that the belling of case mouths is helpful. I do it to prevent the gas from possibly caving in a case from gas leaks. 
If those loads with the spitzers are jacketed that may be a cause too- could be too small for the barrels of some old rifles. I assume the slugs are cast- l hope so anyhow. 
That final load with the 4759 is possibly too heavy, so maybe rethink it and drop the charge down. I often use about thirteen or so grains with a bullet similar in weight.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
gnoahhh
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1065
Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Joined: Mar 31st, 2010
Re: Effectively fireforming .32-40 cases
Reply #6 - Today at 10:59am
Print Post  
Am I missing something? I've never felt the need to fireform a .32-40 case. As stated above, load them and start shooting them (if fixed ammo). Breach seating is similar - one spanking new fresh case for a weekend's match shooting.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Smoke
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 854
Location: San Diego
Joined: Feb 24th, 2013
Re: Effectively fireforming .32-40 cases
Reply #7 - Today at 2:52pm
Print Post  
gnoahhh wrote Today at 10:59am:
Am I missing something? I've never felt the need to fireform a .32-40 case. As stated above, load them and start shooting them (if fixed ammo). Breach seating is similar - one spanking new fresh case for a weekend's match shooting.

If the case doesn't properly seal the chamber and you're getting blowback along the sides then the effective chamber pressure won't be the same from shot to shot, with an effect on velocity and accuracy.
  

I refuse to spend my life worrying about what I eat. There is no pleasure worth foregoing just for an extra 3 years in the geriatric ward. John Mortimer
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
gunlaker
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2612
Location: lower mainland, B.C.
Joined: Dec 13th, 2010
Re: Effectively fireforming .32-40 cases
Reply #8 - Today at 4:11pm
Print Post  
I guess you preload your cases before a match instead of just using one all day?  If so I think they'll form better with a seated bullet to get the pressure up before it can get around the case.  When I ordered my breech seaters from Russ Weber he told me it takes about 4 shots when breech seating in order for the case to fully fit the chamber.  He wanted to make sure you sent him sample cases that were fully formed.

With that said I just use a single case all the time.  I have, for the most part, been using the same case all year in my Wyoming Armory highwall.  With a new case I just shoot it a few times at the sighter target.  I don't know how much it affects the consistency of velocities shot to shot but using the same case, my shots are mostly within 20 fps of one another.  Always a few outliers though. 

With all that said, I am not a benchrest champion.  A score of 245 or better makes me almost happy  Cheesy

Chris.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send TopicPrint