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Reply #15 - Jun 21st, 2026 at 4:39pm
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Years ago Creighton Audette wrote a detailed analysis with testing of rifle primer performance in Precision Shooting. As I recall he discussed magnum primers quite a bit and the problems often experienced with them. He often used the term " Brisance " when evaluating these hotter mag primers and how too much Brisance ( the shock wave that preceeds the full energy of explosives ) can actually shatter powder kernels. In so doing uniformity of burn is negatively affected resulting in significant velocity spreads and sub-optimal accuracy. I recall some of his photos that revealed the ignition spark and flame and how most magnum primers ejected much more flame than standard or benchrest primers. It's a really great series of articles written by a shooter with a true scientific mind. I believe it may be found sleuthing the internet

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Re: Large rifle magnum primers
Reply #16 - Jun 21st, 2026 at 5:36pm
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Good observations  Rick,.. I'll check my saved editions .

"Audette developed a method to determine the “sweet spot” for a given rifle by varying the powder charge. He referred to this method as the Incremental Load Development Method, (ILDM). He would typically load a series of 20 different powder charges while using the same bullet, primer, case brand, and overall length. The powder charge increment was small (remember this was smokeless powder), 0.2 or 0.3 grains."


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burntwater wrote on Jun 21st, 2026 at 4:39pm:
Years ago Creighton Audette wrote a detailed analysis with testing of rifle primer performance in Precision Shooting. As I recall he discussed magnum primers quite a bit and the problems often experienced with them. He often used the term " Brisance " when evaluating these hotter mag primers and how too much Brisance ( the shock wave that preceeds the full energy of explosives ) can actually shatter powder kernels. In so doing uniformity of burn is negatively affected resulting in significant velocity spreads and sub-optimal accuracy. I recall some of his photos that revealed the ignition spark and flame and how most magnum primers ejected much more flame than standard or benchrest primers. It's a really great series of articles written by a shooter with a true scientific mind. I believe it may be found sleuthing the internet

Rick


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Reply #17 - Jun 22nd, 2026 at 1:18pm
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I know for a fact from guy that used to show up at a club range I belonged to that a large rifle mag primer by itself will push a bullet way down a barrel. What I don't know is the measurement of the lead bullet or barrel specs. That stunt always got me thinking about ' something ? ' . He was not the safest guy to be around when he had his testing beanie on or in the next lane station as he was continually experimenting and challenging ballistic rules. I really don't believe it was just coincidence that his face and neck was peppered with little black spots. 

Same club once held a candle shoot in the indoor range where with primers alone you tried to blow out a candle. It was fun but you needed to hold very accurately offhand. The history of this event apparently dated back to the Civil War I'm told. 

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