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Re: Someone help me Identify this Rolling Block action
Reply #30 - May 29th, 2026 at 9:37pm
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Appears to be a #5 that has been milled to an octagon top. Here is a #5 that has been contoured to a #1 sporter with the bottom tang extended. Still needs the stock flange contacts squared.
  
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Re: Someone help me Identify this Rolling Block action
Reply #31 - May 30th, 2026 at 10:11am
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You can't see it with these actions fitted into a buttstock, but when removed it's immediately obvious in the tang areas of the military actions. The tangs are not just wider, but also a lot thicker than the Sporting actions have. It takes a lot of metal removed to get military tangs down to Sporting size.
I bought a few pistol grip lower tangs that Numrich ended up with from all the 1997 parts they bought from Remington. Those are really great parts and besides making the conversion to pistol grip easy, they also make the trigger guards already shaped and eliminate all that metal work too.
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Reply #32 - May 30th, 2026 at 12:22pm
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If I remember correctly, Higginbotham sent my wood to Treebone and said that it was because it was a military action.
  
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Re: Someone help me Identify this Rolling Block action
Reply #33 - yesterday at 4:22pm
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There are three significant indicator here.
Breech block has a horizontal thumb piece. There were three rifles produced with this feature; 1871 Army, 1872/3 New York State, and the 1902/1910 smokeless rifles.
The receiver is wedged shape at the rear.  This feature began production in 1875.  This will eliminate the 1871 and NYS.
The presence of the extractor limiting screw.  Remington only used  these on the 1902/1910.

The octagon top receiver ring was certainly shaped after the rifle left the factory.  To me the protrusion of the receiver pins indicate the receiver was likely surface ground, probably along with the shaping of the receiver ring.

Barring some other flaw, the action should handle .30-40 Krag, .30-30 Win and 8mm Lebel.
  
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Re: Someone help me Identify this Rolling Block action
Reply #34 - yesterday at 11:35pm
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With your objective of a Custer tribute rifle, I'd go .50-70 instead of 50-95.  Three reasons:  First: The larger diameter of the -95 will make it harder to get the cartridge to clear the hammer and block and chamber right.  The 50-70 will be slightly easier, but not easy.  Two, the -95 has much less of a rim.  This will make it very easy to over run the extractor on a rolling block, and jam a loaded cartridge in front of the extractor.  Real pain to clear.  Third, the 50-70 brass is much better brass.  Disclaimer here:  This isn't in my self interest to say this, but Starline 50-70 is much better than the available 50-95 brass, which I sell.  The 50-95 brass has a very thin neck, and it's delicate and doesn't last a lot of loadings.   

If I was going to build this type of rifle, I'd chamber it in 44-77.  Smaller case and bottleneck makes it much easier to feed.  Good solid rim for the extractor.  Good durable brass at similar cost to 50-95.  I sell this brass also.   

As Kenn said, .30-40 and .30-30 would be good candates also.  As would 38-55.  the 8mm Lebel isn't real easy to get brass for.
  
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Re: Someone help me Identify this Rolling Block action
Reply #35 - Today at 12:40am
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I have 50-90 Starline brass from several years ago.  I understand the top of the hammer will need a modification.  Bobby Hoyt said it was not an issue. 
Maybe I should sell the 50-90 brass and go with 50-70.  Either way,  I can always use my 56-50 Spencer ammo in a pinch.  Grin
I have a pair of 43 Spanish Rolling Block, plenty of brass,  a mold and dies.  A carbine and rifle.  It's the ballistic twin of the 44-77.
  

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Re: Someone help me Identify this Rolling Block action
Reply #36 - Today at 1:02am
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The Starline 50-90 brass is great for making 500-450 #2 Musket. Just run it in the sizer and trim it to any length necessary. If you're just going to throw it away throw it my way.
  
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