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Reply #45 - Apr 26th, 2026 at 6:53pm
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Burntwater,
"mainstream" was not the best word, but the point is we will never have mass appeal in the shooting world. However, every person interested in shooting is a potential recruit, and I also agree with Watchthewind that we dont need to focus on attracting younger shooters, we need to simply attract new shooters. 
It would be best if we had an organized strategy, making sure we are represented at large events such as NRA annual meetings and other shooting events and having a social media presence.  However, if we cant get organized enough to do that we can each do what we can on our own to bring new shooters in. 
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Reply #46 - Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:48pm
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marlinguy wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 4:46pm:
If you attend a lot of matches of any kind travel expenses are going to quickly surpass guns and equipment cost. Doesn't matter what type of shooting you do.


You got it Val, that is the BIG NUT traveling and competing in most matches. Driving long distancesu is not very accomodating to a shooting discipline that demands steadiness and unwavering nerves. Not if you're doing it on a budget. One reason I asked Westerner a while back on how he does it especially in the big Western states

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Reply #47 - Apr 26th, 2026 at 9:17pm
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Lots of insightful ideas from the real players here. I'm not one for sure as orthopedically I'd be pressed to man a scope and call shots but I love this bunch, their experience and intellect and frankly if you ponder this then sell us as the 
         ' Thinking  Man's Shooting Sport ' . 

Trust me a concept like this will appeal to many. 

Big minus with Schuetzen is we don't offer an angle for sponsors who need to sell product. They will sell the sport if it sells product. I can't fathom anything in our game that would entice a sponsor right now, but ?  Most of us are pretty much do it your selfers with no interest making a sponser money. Sponsors sell shooting events like Mike Dillon's chicks sold reloading. You can't up your readership or your participants without sponsors these days so we need a work around. I recall when pins and plate shooting evolved. I built revolvers for this sport and within a few years a couple of sponsors jumped in and these events took off. We got the fuel just need a match. 

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Reply #48 - Apr 26th, 2026 at 11:53pm
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burntwater wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 9:17pm:
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Big minus with Schuetzen is we don't offer an angle for sponsors who need to sell product. They will sell the sport if it sells product.

We never had any problem getting donations:

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We just gave up asking for them when the membership decided that no one really needed any more stuff.
  

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Reply #49 - Apr 28th, 2026 at 12:26pm
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Reply #50 - Apr 28th, 2026 at 2:30pm
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When I mentioned sponsorship above it was, or should have been, with reservations. Let me explain. Donations or cash coming in will always aid an organization,(s) like ASSRA & ISSRA however it needs to be governed and directed to best advantage for the association. This is not always as easy as it may sound. Promotional efforts can be ticklish when orchestrated from within the membership as too many times it creates rift's within the group. Seen it many times in the marine trades and yachting world where you can't get two dozen commercial fishermen to even agree on where to hold a meeting or the time ! With a bunch like this made up of highly skilled experienced members with decades of experience it's doubtful, I hope I'm wrong. 

About sponsors. Well they will certainly take care of promotion that's what they do. But with most of them there always seems to be mission creep where after a while they like to write the rules and change the market appearance of the association. That won't stand here I'm sure. Honestly a high quality and researched publication like Joe has built with our Journal is probably as good as it gets considering cost and his dedication. But it has a very limited distribution which would definitely have to be increased at club and regional levels. A Utube site would probably address this nicely but I don't know. Again I'm just spitballing but food for thought

One last thing and I'm not promoting this just throwing it out but almost every shooting sport reacts favorably to reactive targets, be it broken clays, plates, bowling pins, gongs, eggs, running deer, or cowboy shoots with different hand made stage props, etc. Of course accurate scoring being the nucleus of Schuetzen has to have paper targets but nothing tickles a shooter like knocking over plates and pins or hearing a gong off in the distance. There wouldn't be a ballon business if you couldn't pop em. 

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Reply #51 - Apr 28th, 2026 at 5:17pm
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Metallic buffalo targets would be great for the big bore shooters, (Sharps, Trapdoors and Springfields),could be a separate event or it could be half paper and half silhouettes.  Not all ranges are appropriate for silhouettes due to the prospect of rounds leaving the range, however. 
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