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KensBullard Junior Member Offline Posts: 66 Location: Woodland Wa Joined: Dec 17^th, 2024	108X49 Cartridge Mar 31^st, 2026 at 12:04pm	Print Post
	I bought a german Schuetzen rifle in parts. barrell is marked 10849 I looked in a few of my cartridge books and cant find anything thanks Ken


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4383 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #1 - Mar 31^st, 2026 at 1:29pm	Print Post
	Here you go: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) That would be a 10.8mm bore.


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craigster Oldtimer Offline Posts: 815 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #2 - Mar 31^st, 2026 at 2:07pm	Print Post
	Could the 9 be a 7? (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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sharps4590 Full Member Offline Posts: 112 Joined: Mar 24^th, 2016	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #3 - Mar 31^st, 2026 at 6:46pm	Print Post
	Hopefully someone will be along who is more familiar with that cartridge enumerating system than I but, I don't believe you have a 10.8 caliber Schuetzen rifle. That's slightly over 40 caliber. The most common is the 8.15 X 46R and I think the 'spud' size for that caliber is 108. As always, I am subject to correction.
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KensBullard Junior Member Offline Posts: 66 Location: Woodland Wa Joined: Dec 17^th, 2024	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #4 - Mar 31^st, 2026 at 8:22pm	Print Post
	It's about 40 cal


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craigster Oldtimer Offline Posts: 815 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #5 - Mar 31^st, 2026 at 8:25pm	Print Post
	Make a chamber cast that includes 3/4 - 1" of the bore.


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KensBullard Junior Member Offline Posts: 66 Location: Woodland Wa Joined: Dec 17^th, 2024	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #6 - Mar 31^st, 2026 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	I will if I can find my chamber cast stuff


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KensBullard Junior Member Offline Posts: 66 Location: Woodland Wa Joined: Dec 17^th, 2024	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #7 - Apr 1^st, 2026 at 12:29am	Print Post
	looking at the barrel it's takes 43 mauser to make the cases


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4383 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #8 - Apr 1^st, 2026 at 12:33am	Print Post
	sharps4590, if you'll look at the link I posted you'll see that the 11.15x49R is a target cartridge. Maybe it was for one of those contests where they shoot at a target on top of a pole until they blow it lose. A larger caliber/hole would give an advantage. That sounds like a Swiss target game. Ken is it for sure German or could it be Swiss?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17876 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #9 - Apr 1^st, 2026 at 10:36am	Print Post
	The early scheutzen rifles were quite often .40 calibers. That was a hold over from muzzleloader days when most ML scheutzen rifles were .40 calibers. I have several Ballard factory scheutzen rifles chambered in .40-63 Ballard. I thought it was an odd choice when I bought the first one, but after seeing many I figured it out.

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sharps4590 Full Member Offline Posts: 112 Joined: Mar 24^th, 2016	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #10 - Apr 1^st, 2026 at 11:40am	Print Post
	And so I stand corrected! I know of the shooting game where the target is shot from a pole but I also cannot remember the name


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craigster Oldtimer Offline Posts: 815 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #11 - Apr 1^st, 2026 at 11:50pm	Print Post
	KensBullard wrote on Apr 1^st, 2026 at 12:29am: looking at the barrel it's takes 43 mauser to make the cases By looking at the barrel?


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Otony Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 310 Location: Bandon, Oregon Joined: Jun 5^th, 2021	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #12 - yesterday at 12:27am	Print Post
	craigster wrote on Apr 1^st, 2026 at 11:50pm: KensBullard wrote on Apr 1^st, 2026 at 12:29am: looking at the barrel it's takes 43 mauser to make the cases By looking at the barrel? Calibrated eyeballs!

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KensBullard Junior Member Offline Posts: 66 Location: Woodland Wa Joined: Dec 17^th, 2024	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #13 - yesterday at 2:34am	Print Post
	I took a ID mic to the barrel the base is .520 the rim is .610 no Caibarted eyeballs ken


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sharps4590 Full Member Offline Posts: 112 Joined: Mar 24^th, 2016	Re: 108X49 Cartridge Reply #14 - yesterday at 8:01am	Print Post
	You really need a chamber cast. However, just for speculative purposes, it could be the old 10.5 X 47R cartridge and I believe there was also a 10 X 47R. Both were based on the 11.15 X 60R Mauser. I believe all the 47mm length cases were used as target cartridges as one variety or another. I've just never seen one in a Schuetzen rifle. If it should turn out to be either the 10 or 10.5 I believe I can help. I have a Jost & Diehl combination gun in 16 by 10.5 X 47R that I worked up a load for and wrote an article published in Waidmannsheil, issue #60, Spring 2017. Is your rifle Nitro proofed? I'm pretty sure all the Stahl, 47mm cartridges started life as BP cartridges.


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