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Shipping Barrels
Mar 4th, 2026 at 2:33pm
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I thought the following shipping experience might be helpful.
To those that have used Pirate Ship and know the ropes no need to read on...!

I purchased a barrel from a forum member. (several over the past year)
We all probably have read the threads about Shipping Horrors of late, this is not about that altho I have shared a bad experience or two on this forum in the past related to USPS 

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As I had never used a third party postage / payment handler service I was skeptical. I compared Pirate Ship's vs. USPS rates to send a PVC Tube in a Box: To and From the seller. The total difference between the two, sending the empty return tube in a box and the cost of return shipping with the barrel was $35.00 vs. the cost of $60.00 to do the same thing with the USPS.

I chose to send a PVC tube to the seller for return shipping because of two reasons, one, I didn't want the barrel to arrive, half in the box or not at all and two, the combined cost of sending the PVC tube with screw on end caps and the return shipping expense was the same as the one way USPS postage. $35.00

In addition to sending the funds to the seller with the prepaid return label I included a Apple Air Tag Tracking device which, while not completely comprehensive, works the majority of the time. 

Pirate Ship offers you the option of picking the carrier, (USPS or UPS, FedEx) and the cost of each.
You print out the labels at home, tape it to the box and drop it off at the selected carrier. No waiting in line etc. Very Efficient. You have tracking numbers and can get insurance on line.

This makes the process very simple for the seller, all he has to do is open one end of the box, unscrew the cap, insert barrel, tape the included label on the box over the old one, tape it up and drop it off at the appropriate carrier. 

Including the Air Tag in other packages has helped me locate wayward packages that the Post Office told me were 'in transit'.
In one case I was able to give the local postal person who worked in the Greensboro Postal Sort Facility, not only the street address of the building it was in but the relative cardinal point within the building where the package had been sitting for three days. 

As a side note relative to shipping mailing "TUBEs"
Given their shape and how they sometimes get squeezed between boxes in sorting chutes, they sometimes get Jettisoned at the bends and turns over the edge, where they either get picked up and reprocessed or
  
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Reply #1 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 3:27pm
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I've shipped a lot of barrels, and received a few.  Given that, I've had a lot of observation of how they arrive, or don't arrive.

The first thing to know is NEVER ship in a tube or round object.  They roll on conveyors, and get lost or damaged.

Second, is make sure the barrel is 100% restrained in whatever you ship it in.  If it's loose to slide, it acts like a slide hammer to destroy the shipping container and release itself.

The things to do:

The best way to ship is in a FLAT cardboard slip, or a triangular box.  I often just take a big piece of cardboard, make a couple of lengthwise folds in it about 5 inches from one edge and another 1 1/4 away.  The cardboard should be about 8 inches longer than the barrel.  Put the barrel on it, next to the first fold, and tape it to the cardboard with duct tape or packing tape in a few places.  Then, fold over the cardboard to make a triangular box about wide and 1 1/4 inches thick.  Cut the corners so the ends will fold in, and fold the thin flaps over the ends against the barrel, then one flap at each end over the barrel ends.  Now fold the second flap over and wrap onto the box.  Tape this down.  The long seam I usually fold one piece over the other and then staple a few times with a box stapler, and the tape around the triangular box in 3 or 4 places.  

Another way is to use a square or rectangular box, and restrain with a lot of packing paper, and a couple of newspaper crammed in tight at each end to restrain the barrel.  Or a tube inside the box, restrained well as the OP stated.  Make sure the tube is tight, or it will slide hammer it's way out of the box, and the tube and barrel will be lost.   
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 4:31pm
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There's not much more infuriating having an empty box or package delivered to you that had contained a rifle barrel. I've had that happen to me twice. 
I'd only add one thing to what ssdave said, that being that I like to add a small block of wood at the ends of the package to help prevent damage to the muzzle and breech ends of the barrel. You can't use too much packaging tape on the ends of the package also.
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:30pm
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Both USPS and UPS charge an extra fee for round tubes, so even with a round tube I slide tubes into long square boxes. It ensures they stay on conveyors and costs less.
I love Pirateship, but I never saw Fed Ex as an option? When I use them it's either UPS or USPS. Did they change to add Fed Ex also? I don't just drop packages off as I stay and ask for a receipt so I have that in hand when I leave.
  

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Reply #4 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 1:57am
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Mailing items through postal services has become such a pain…but I just used Shipmygun.com to send a set of pistols through the mail, and I’m very pleased with how easy it was. I’ve had some horror stories with the mail, but was satisfied with this service. Not only was it convenient, but it was much cheaper than any other options.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 11:14am
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Ask JerryH how to ship a barrel, extra heavy tube, tight wood plugs in both ends secured with dry wall screws, fiber glass tape over everything.
You could have run over it with a truck with no damage and a major project to unpackage. Best packaging job I have seen. Thanks, Jerry.
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Reply #6 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 11:53am
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Thank you Chuck. I have upgraded to using a square box, but my packaging is still pretty much USPS proof.  Cool
  

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Reply #7 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 12:40pm
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Vall,

Just looked at Pirate Ship web site, You are correct, FedEx is not an option. My bad, 
RE: Good idea to wait and get a receipt.

I went to my local UPS sort facility here in No. Fl. (St. Augustine) where they "USED TO HAVE" a customer rep handling intakes.... No More.

They told me I had to go to a UPS "Store" While there I asked one of the workers a question. He didn't know the answer but referred me to the manager. A very nice and helpful sort explained to me one of the nuance's regarding 'Last Mile' handling of packages.

As it turns out UPS sometimes uses USPS for the "Last Mile" deliveries.
And that is usually only for "Small" packages as the postal service usually has small vehicles.

When someone uses Pirate Ship one has to present it to the carrier you bought postage from. For example if you bought a UPS label, you have to drop it off at a UPS. facility. The warnings they give you are clear, If you drop off the package at a USPS facility and you bought a UPS label, the package is going to be disposed of, garbage or otherwise.  

So I asked the UPS manager, what happens when someone is shipping me a package and my address is a PO Box....?

He said in that case UPS will deliver it to the St. Address of the post Office. and because that is the final destination, that post office "SHOULD" hold it for the owner of the POBox. 

The upshot here is, when expecting a package, if the sender is going to use UPS, use a physical street address unless it takes three pack mules to get to your cabin. 

BTW, good advice on securing the barrel from forward and aft movement within a rectangular box. I like the PVC schedule 40 with screw on caps at both ends placed inside the box. 

One last thing re: Air Tags
I take a screen shot on my phone at the end of every day which shows the the map of the building / highway location of the last known location of the package. It's date and time stamped. 



marlinguy wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:30pm:
Both USPS and UPS charge an extra fee for round tubes, so even with a round tube I slide tubes into long square boxes. It ensures they stay on conveyors and costs less.
I love Pirateship, but I never saw Fed Ex as an option? When I use them it's either UPS or USPS. Did they change to add Fed Ex also? I don't just drop packages off as I stay and ask for a receipt so I have that in hand when I leave.

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Reply #8 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 2:32pm
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I have a good friend who manages a company that sells those huge copy machines that print out banners and wraps for commercial vehicles. The materials come on cardboard tubes that have 3/8" walls and I can jump up and down on them and never do any harm to them. I have to cut them with a hacksaw, or my bandsaw as they're very tough.
I use those for shipping anything like a scope or barrel and just use dense foam cut to fit into each end. I wrap the scope or barrel in bubble wrap to make it fit snug, then push the foam in each end and tape the ends shut. Then put the tubes in a square box and label it. I'd love to get the tubes back, but since I have an endless supply it's no big deal.
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 6th, 2026 at 9:25am
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Absolutely do NOT use a pvc tube to ship barrels. It is brittle and easily broken by falling, dropping or getting thrown. Here is a picture of  one I rec'd that was supposed to have a barrel in it. When it was handed to me I said "wait a minute this is empty" He said I guess I had better note that. The barrel was never found. Always have the items you are shipping also labeled inside the package. Otherwise they are lost forever. If they are labeled they may sometimes be found and recovered.
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 6th, 2026 at 1:57pm
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DeadEYE,

Thanks for that warning.. Good to know.

Also good advice about interior addressee info. 

I'm guessing there are better ways but this is how I recently started shipping my barrels. 

I hope my method prevents that sort of problem you experienced/. 
I place my barrel in Schedule 40 PVC so it doesn't rattle side to side or move from end to end. Caps on both ends, one screwed on (preferably both) 

Then take a "4" Pool Noodle" cut to required length. (round formed "Foam, bout 1.5" hollow in the center) slice it down the middle one side, wrap that around the PVC tube and put it in a "4'X"4" Box long enough for the tube ( 38") 

It would take one heck of a fall or heavy truck to run over it before it damaged the barrel.  


Deadeye Bly wrote on Mar 6th, 2026 at 9:25am:
Absolutely do NOT use a pvc tube to ship barrels. It is brittle and easily broken by falling, dropping or getting thrown. Here is a picture of  one I rec'd that was supposed to have a barrel in it. When it was handed to me I said "wait a minute this is empty" He said I guess I had better note that. The barrel was never found. Always have the items you are shipping also labeled inside the package. Otherwise they are lost forever. If they are labeled they may sometimes be found and recovered.

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Reply #11 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 2:24am
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ssdave wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 3:27pm:
I've shipped a lot of barrels, and received a few.  Given that, I've had a lot of observation of how they arrive, or don't arrive.

The first thing to know is NEVER ship in a tube or round object.  They roll on conveyors, and get lost or damaged.

Second, is make sure the barrel is 100% restrained in whatever you ship it in.  If it's loose to slide, it acts like a slide hammer to destroy the shipping container and release itself.

The things to do:

The best way to ship is in a FLAT cardboard slip, or a triangular box.  I often just take a big piece of cardboard, make a couple of lengthwise folds in it about 5 inches from one edge and another 1 1/4 away.  The cardboard should be about 8 inches longer than the barrel.  Put the barrel on it, next to the first fold, and tape it to the cardboard with duct tape or packing tape in a few places.  Then, fold over the cardboard to make a triangular box about wide and 1 1/4 inches thick.  Cut the corners so the ends will fold in, and fold the thin flaps over the ends against the barrel, then one flap at each end over the barrel ends.  Now fold the second flap over and wrap onto the box.  Tape this down.  The long seam I usually fold one piece over the other and then staple a few times with a box stapler, and the tape around the triangular box in 3 or 4 places.  

Another way is to use a square or rectangular box, and restrain with a lot of packing paper, and a couple of newspaper crammed in tight at each end to restrain the barrel.  Or a tube inside the box, restrained well as the OP stated.  Make sure the tube is tight, or it will slide hammer it's way out of the box, and the tube and barrel will be lost.   

   
Side Note- Military Post Office in Afghanistan in 2003 had triangular cardboard containers for shipping exempt rifles back to the States. Secure, and never heard of anybody having damaged rifles, etc. I think that's the best method.
  
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