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Reply #15 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 4:56pm
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With the bolt face completely encircling the rim of the cartridge the action operates as a "push feed". Here are a few photos of the later version showing the cartridge slowly rising under the extractor as it is chambered.
  

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Reply #16 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 10:54pm
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Thanks for the explanation. I assume that your block has a taper under the cartridge to push the rim up. Yes?
My rifle has the Wehrmannsgewehr bolt head and altered extractor. The bolt pushes the cartridge into the chamber and the claw slips over the rim.
I've seen a drawing of a loading block, that completely fills the magazine. I'm not sure how they retain the loading block with this type.
I made my loading block shorter in depth, so that the factory floor plate, spring and follower would retain the block.
The loading block sure is easier to use than trying to load without one.
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Reply #17 - Mar 6th, 2026 at 7:49am
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The block in my rifle completely compresses the follower and spring so there is next to zero movement if you press down on it. The bottom is not flat so it is quite stable on top of the follower.

The rifle is completely matching numbers so I got curious and took the gun back apart to check the wood block, sadly it is not numbered but it is also not a mismatch. Wink
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Reply #18 - Mar 12th, 2026 at 5:41pm
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Wehrmannsgewehrs run the gamut from Pre WW1 to the late 1930's. The quality of builds can be mediocre to top of the line. So many were made by small shops and guild members . I personally have never seen one with an intact magazine that would work with the 8.15x46 rimmed cartridges no matter what one tried. Have seen them with wood blocks and fixed followers too. Most wehrmannsgewehrs were made out of rejected Gew98 parts from govt contracts. Usually those with Lange Visier rear sights will have an asterisk on the sight base at 300 or 400 designation which is the 100 meter zero for the standard 8.15x46 load used in these shooting clubs/organizations. 
     Very very few examples made past 1939 as the war effort took precedence. Some were assembled in post war germany as they were not military caliber  - the proofs of that era are the dead giveaway to post war assembly - especially if 98k parts are amongst it. When gew98 receivers were not used it was mauser "banner" receivers ...never seen a military or military rejected 98k receiver used on a wehrmannsgewehr.
  
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Reply #19 - Mar 12th, 2026 at 5:54pm
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Yes, mine was a converted military rifle, and to my limited understanding, that was a rather common conversion following WWI. I really should have kept it….sigh

The rear sight was identical to that on the rifle chipmaker posted
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The vast majority of wehrmannsgewehr98's were made from rejected parts . You will never find one with military proofs on stock or similar proofs unless restored by someone. These were sold by guilds and small shops that did work during the war and prior for the german govt. So military inspected parts on them would have got them in the wringer if they were not rejected for govt contract. I have seen a few wehrmannsgewehrs that had the crown R/C proof to show they were sent to the revisions commission and adjudged out of spec , and in most cases used , but as often rejected if too far out of tolerance. There were many star/asterisk assembled gew98's during the great war and those were done at depots with badly out of tolerance parts and their serials have number prefixes instead of alphabet prefixes. These can also run into total rebuild of pre war rifles that are even remarked to the arsenal doing that salvage yet leaving original date/maker intact. Neat niche and some put crazy values on them. Every whermannsgewehr I ever had or handled never had final military acceptance proofs on stock or receiver , and often stocks were mauser foreign contract reject wood that was repurposed for wehrmannsgewehr sales. I have seen wehrmannsgewehrs assembled from 3 or four different rifles by "restorers" , but they all looked like a good going over would have been needed to get them to shoot tight as the parts were ham fisted fit. I used to fireform 30-30 and 32 win spl brass for that caliber. Worked great for me.
  
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Here's a great book on these, though most of the book is dedicated to the history of these rifles and the matches (which is very interesting).

I have 4 of these rifles: 3 Wehrmannsgewehre and 1 Einheitsgewehr. Have only fired 2 of them so far.

The earliest one is dated 1908 and made by "Waffenfabriik Mauser - Oberndorf" and was a shooting prize in 1910. Sights were upgraded to the target style, and it also has the "Bundesschiessen Leipzig 1934" emblem tacked on.
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3 of the rifles have the Gew98 rear sight base, and have a "star" stamp for 175 and 300 meters, for the 8.15x46R target round.

2 of them were upgraded with "Haenel" target sights in the 1930s. Those sights were marked for 100, 175, and 300 meters.
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Reply #24 - yesterday at 10:46pm
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JaegerWilhelm - great looking rifles. I have a Haenel-Lorenz like yours with the flat rear sight and I love shooting it. Do you have more picture of your Einheitgewehr? Did it come with the two-stage trigger? I wasn't familiar with that model until Finze's book. 

Regarding Wolfgang Finze's book - if you or anyone else are interested. PM me your email and I'll send you an English translation text file. No pictures but if you have the book you can follow along fine.
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