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Understanding Ratchet Barrels
Feb 16th, 2026 at 7:57pm
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I recently put together a 30-20 with a ratchet barrel. I have notice that it takes 8-10 shots before the barrel settles down and starts to print. The bullets I am using are a 130 grain Lyman, and 155 grain RCBS flat nose. Both cast to a #2 Lyman alloy, with a velocity at 1375 fps. Barrel has less than 500 rounds thru it. A bit perplex as I have never had a gun do this. So school this ole boy a might.

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Reply #1 - Feb 16th, 2026 at 9:33pm
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Now there is an interesting post. A single shot rifle chambered in 32-20 with a ratchet rifled barrel. Very unusual.
To start off with, what brand barrel is it and how did you wind up with it?

It's not unusual that a rifle shoots more accurately after a few fouling shots. My old Buddy Chuck used to shoot twenty or thirty shots on a sighter target before going for score.

I have only one rifle with a ratchet rifled bore but it's a percussion rifle.
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Reply #2 - Feb 16th, 2026 at 10:07pm
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I would try some 25-1 alloy and bump the velocity up 100fps or more.
  

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Reply #3 - Feb 17th, 2026 at 11:24am
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I would suggest that you inspect the rifle for stock fit. I have had a couple of Savage 99s that did as yours, in needing a few to settle it down to great grouping. One, my favorite, became a 'spot-on-all-the-time' shooter after snugging the stock bolt a little bit and refitting the fore stock. 
After doing that, maybe the other advice added in will give you a rifle with sterling performance.
  
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Reply #4 - Feb 17th, 2026 at 9:17pm
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Thanks for some insights. Hopefully with a bit of patience I learn what is the root cause. The fun is in the "what makes it tic".

Thanks once again,

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Reply #5 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 1:19pm
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I have only one rifle with a ratchet bore.  It's a Buffalo Newton, in .30-06. Bad headspace & all the Buffalo Newton problems, so I don't shoot it.  I always thought ratchet bores were intended for jacketed bullets & high velocity.
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 2:35pm
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Doesn't Shilen mfg a ratchet .22 rimfire barrel?
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Reply #7 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 3:27pm
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Reply #8 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 3:50pm
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beltfed wrote on Feb 18th, 2026 at 2:35pm:
Doesn't Shilen mfg a ratchet .22 rimfire barrel?
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Yes, they do.  I have one on my Stevens 44.

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Reply #9 - Feb 18th, 2026 at 6:44pm
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I put a Shilen ratchet .22LR on my 44.5 Schuetzen after canvasing our club small bore shooters who have tried them and found them to be fantastic. So far my results have been outstanding. A couple people feel the standard Shilen's perform as well but I am happy.
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Reply #10 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 9:54am
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[/quote]

Yes, they do.  I have one on my Stevens 44.

Wayne [/quote]

Wayne, what’s the length of and twist rate on that barrel?
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Reply #11 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 1:39pm
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Hi Moose,

It's setup for .22LR with a 16-twist Shilen ratchet barrel.  I had Tom Klinger out of Florida install the barrel & cut it to 20"  The shorter barrel balances better for me when shooting the chickens off-hand.  My chicken scores have subsequently improved. And it's sufficiently long (min. is 16" for .22LR) resulting in an increase in velocity over the original longer barrel.  And I shoot scope so don't need the longer length, a benefit when shooting iron sights.  In addition to how it looks, it balances very nicely.  I foresee 6 or 7 chickens & 5-in-a-row in my future.   Smiley

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Reply #12 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 1:44am
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[quote author=37263B22302E2220430 link=1771289848/11#11 date=1772649547]Hi Moose,

It's setup for .22LR with a 16-twist Shilen ratchet barrel.  I had Tom Klinger out of Florida install the barrel & cut it to 20"  The shorter barrel balances better for me when shooting the chickens off-hand.  My chicken scores have subsequently improved. And it's sufficiently long (min. is 16" for .22LR) resulting in an increase in velocity over the original longer barrel.  And I shoot scope so don't need the longer length, a benefit when shooting iron sights.  In addition to how it looks, it balances very nicely.  I foresee 6 or 7 chickens & 5-in-a-row in my future.   Smiley

Wayne[/quote

Wayne, you’re certainly onto something here. I think you’re killing two birds with one stone by shortening your barrel. First, you’re tailoring the rifle to fit your needs, in this case the balance is crucial. The second and I consider most important is the confidence in your equipment. I think that there’s positive effects when you believe there’s advantages in your gear. Nothing is better than actually seeing improvements in your game, and chicken scores going up really feels great. Congrats on your successes, your scores show your gains.

One of these days, I’d love to test shoot your rig to feel the balance differences. I’m curious what your total weight on the rifle is? I bet it’s not much different from mine, but the center of gravity is certainly closer to you. 
 
Another question, do you clean your bore afterwards or just leave it fouled? Which leads into, have you noticed an improvement in groupings after shooting through a break in period? 

The Shilen ratchet barrels no doubt perform well, what ammo does yours prefer to eat?

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Reply #13 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 8:17am
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TheLooseMoose wrote on Mar 5th, 2026 at 1:44am:
[quote author=37263B22302E2220430 link=1771289848/11#11 date=1772649547]Hi 
One of these days, I’d love to test shoot your rig to feel the balance differences. I’m curious what your total weight on the rifle is? I bet it’s not much different from mine, but the center of gravity is certainly closer to you. 
 
Another question, do you clean your bore afterwards or just leave it fouled? Which leads into, have you noticed an improvement in groupings after shooting through a break in period? 

The Shilen ratchet barrels no doubt perform well, what ammo does yours prefer to eat?

Moose


Moose,

The rifle with scope weighs right at 8lbs.  After shooting I use a Q-tip with Bore Tech carbon remover to clean the forward part of the chamber where the carbon tends to collect.  Then one patch down the bore wetted with Bore Tech. I don't worry about breaking-in the bore after the very limited cleaning.  The rifle groups as well at the start of matches as it does at the end.

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