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Yesterday at 4:05pm
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Anybody want to explain to me what and how "Air Gauging" a barrel works and how accurate is it ?I've seen this forever with Douglas barrels but haven't a clue

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Reply #1 - yesterday at 5:00pm
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I didn't know either so I asked Mr Google.

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For those that don't want to watch youtube, air gauging works by putting a button slightly smaller than barrel diameter into the barrel, and introducing presurized air  behind it, while monitoring the pressure.  The button is moved down the barrel, and the air pressure changes are graphed vs button location in the barrel.  As the barrel diameter changes, the leakage around the button causes pressure changes.   

The system has been calibrated for button size vs bore size vs pressure to indicate variatons in diameter.   

Barrels with the least variations in pressure and thus diameter are more consistent performers.  Douglas has established a pass/fail criteria for it's air gauge barrels to set the level of quality.
  
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Reply #3 - yesterday at 7:49pm
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It’s one of the reasons Douglas produces top quality barrels in volume at reasonable prices.

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Reply #4 - yesterday at 7:51pm
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I always wondered about that.   

I have a Green Mountain barrel, which I heard are air gauged as part of the process, but it has a rifling deformity that is huge.  When you push a tight patch down it, it feels like a big bump when you hit the really bad patch.  It is also full of loose spots which are easy to feel when slugging it.  Shouldn't air gauging have caught that?

Or is air gauging done through the bore before rifling it?

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Reply #5 - yesterday at 10:26pm
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I have a Douglas barrlel with the same kind of "push a patch thru" bump.  A bore scope showed a deep gouge in the rifling, which doesn't seem to stop it from shooting .5 MOA groups at 100 yards when I do my part.

I suspect that the air guage just shows that the bore and rifling are mostly consistent size within some standard, from end to end.   

A soft lead bullet fired and captured so that one could look at the output end of a shot might more useful.
  

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Reply #6 - yesterday at 10:46pm
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The air gauge is just a tool. What’s done with the information is up to the barrel maker. And it’s possible makers overlook variances by mistake 

Owned at least a Douglas barrels, 8 on CPA’s others on High power Silhouette rifles, never felt bumps or hard spots. If I did would return it.

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boats wrote yesterday at 10:46pm:
The air gauge is just a tool. What’s done with the information is up to the barrel maker. And it’s possible makers overlook variances by mistake 

Owned at least a Douglas barrels, 8 on CPA’s others on High power Silhouette rifles, never felt bumps or hard spots. If I did would return it.

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I like the Douglas XX barrels too.  This one particular GM barrel is the only barrel I've ever had that had a bump in it like that (from new).  It seems to me though, that if this barrel passed a test with an air gauge, then whoever was doing the testing must have not been good at the job Smiley

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