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Dec 30th, 2025 at 7:00pm
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I am wanting to begin working up a hunting load for my Shiloh Sharps 50-90. I am not a beginner in reloading but have not done much with BP cartridge reloading. I am well aware that for every aspect or step in the loading process there are multiple choices depending on the particular gun, load and loading method. With that said, I am only looking for some basic (starting) advice. So here is what I intend to initially start with. Please feel free to chime in.

Swiss 1.5 powder
large rifle mag primer
550 grain 20-1 grease grove bullet ( I will verify the bore diameter before sizing my bullets and size to .002" above the bore size )
SPG bullet lube
I will use a 24" drop tube
I will use an over the powder wad, which initially will probably be  a vegetable based paper of around .060" thick. 
I have read that Swiss does not like an excessive amount of compression so I intend to adjust my powder charge to allow for about .060" powder compression when the bullet is seated correctly. I have also heard that sometimes with full bore loads, in my case would be 90 grains, the accuracy can suffer caused by to high of a velocity causing some stripping of soft lead bullets. SO, I am open to any suggestions to save some time getting started working up a decent load for hunting. This will not be a competition rifle. I am only looking for a good hunting load. Once I get a good base line I intend work on what it might take to tighten things up. Hopefully this makes since. Thanks

   
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Re: Sharps 50-90 reloading advice
Reply #1 - Dec 30th, 2025 at 7:33pm
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Standing Elk,
Welcome aboard!
Your load sounds like a good place to start. You don’t need mag. Primers with black powder. Most people use large rifle or large pistol. Duplex may be something to look into for a hunting load.
The compression of Swiss is more along what your rifle likes. .060 to .160 is a rule of thumb.
Hope this helps.

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Re: Sharps 50-90 reloading advice
Reply #2 - Dec 30th, 2025 at 11:54pm
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Not sure if you have a compression die but it is not a good idea to compress the wad and powder with the bullet.  If you do a chamber cast you can see how much freebore you have and what that diameter is.  I like a duplex load of 10% smokeless powder such as RE-7 or 5744 to reduce fouling for hunting.  You might also want to try a lighter bullet such as 450 grains.  I have a 50-70 Rolling Block and normally shoot 512 grain Accurate Mould bullets but it lets you know you pulled the trigger so a 550 grain bullet might kill at both ends!  After I did my chamber cast I had Accurate Moulds make me bullets of 450 and 512 grains at the size I wanted so that I don't resize the bullet at all and pan lube them. The one good thing about the 50's is that the bullets stand up and never tip over in the tray while pan lubing!  They also kill!  I sometimes wish that I had a 50-90 and then I shoot the 50-70 and am more than satisfied! My rifle hates 30:1 and 25:1 alloy but does well with 20:1 and 16:1.  I killed a buffalo with the 512 gr 16:1 and recovered both bullets and the front flattened out to maybe 60 caliber and they still weigh over 500 grains.  Have fun working up loads and don't be afraid to wear a strap on recoil pad on your shoulder.  Tom
  
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Re: Sharps 50-90 reloading advice
Reply #3 - Dec 31st, 2025 at 5:10am
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Hi Standing Elk,

I have a Shiloh in .50-90. It's a 12lb rifle. My load for BPCR matches at 2-300yds is 95gr 1FG, .060 fiber wad compressed .100 with a BACO 540GR bullet cast 20-1. I use a 24" drop tube and compression die before seating the bullet with finger pressure. The groove dia on a Shiloh should be .510 dia. 

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Re: Sharps 50-90 reloading advice
Reply #4 - Dec 31st, 2025 at 10:16am
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I'd say forget about the drop tube  - you'll be able to get more than enough powder in that case without it.  And Fg might be better suited, but 1 1/2Fg will do just fine.
And that bullet stripping because of the velocity with a full load, it won't happen.
  
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Reply #5 - Dec 31st, 2025 at 7:26pm
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If it is like my 50-90 with full loads get ready for a detached retina or two or at the very least a sore shoulder. I am not normally recoil sensitive but after my first 40 round match with it I went back to my 40-50. Don't hurt as much...



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Reply #6 - Dec 31st, 2025 at 8:14pm
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JHM, your mama never raised no fool!  Tom.  Grin
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 1st, 2026 at 8:56am
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I have a C. Sharps 15lb gun in 50-90 that is used for plinking and hunting. Since I am not competing I use a duplex load consisting of 5744 (Lovex D60 here in Germany) under a BP charge of Swiss No. 5. My charge of 5744 is equal to 6% of a full charge of 5744 and I deduct that amount (6% or 6gr) from the full 100gr BP charge I use for a non-duplex load. I compress the load but never more than 0.15 inches. I use both card wads cut from milk cartons and a second slip of wax paper I cut with the same punch. A few times with other cartridges I experienced problems with the card wad sticking to the base of the bullet, the wax paper has stopped that completely. I also use only LR primers, not magnums and never LP primers, they are not of the correct dimension and there have been reports of breech face damage cause by them.

My gun has a military buttplate but with 15lbs the recoil is not bad. I also have barrel sights on the gun so I am not worried about getting wacked in the face by a vernier sight.
  

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Re: Sharps 50-90 reloading advice
Reply #8 - Jan 1st, 2026 at 2:45pm
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A huge thank you to everyone. Considering all of your suggestions, I believe I will start with a duplex load, probably with 8 grains of 4227 since I already have some. A .060" veg. over the powder wad, Swiss 1.5 at around 80 grains depending on the amount of compression, and initially compress it .050". I intend to make my own adjustable compression die on my lathe, so after I get that finished I will give this a try and let you know how it all turns out. Thanks again.
  
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Re: Sharps 50-90 reloading advice
Reply #9 - Jan 1st, 2026 at 4:52pm
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Check out the compression die design used by Shiloh.  It allows you to see the case opening to make it easy to insert the case and then the large, flat section that is the stop is also easy to see so that you know that you have compressed the load all of the way.  It uses the end of the case to index.
  
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