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1864 Trapdoor barrel
Dec 13th, 2025 at 1:15am
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I recently acquired an early trap door conversion of a CW musket, lock dated Springfield 1864.The 19" barrel shows some tool marks and the witness marks are slightly misaligned. Curiously it bears Belgian proof marks. If it's a replacement, it's OLD. It's a 45-70, not 50-70, so is it a Model 1868? It has the spring-driven extractor(the spring is broken). Comments?
  
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Re: 1864 Trapdoor barrel
Reply #1 - Dec 13th, 2025 at 6:59am
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Any pictures?



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Re: 1864 Trapdoor barrel
Reply #2 - Dec 13th, 2025 at 10:42am
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Wish there were. I don't know how to do that.
  
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Re: 1864 Trapdoor barrel
Reply #3 - Dec 13th, 2025 at 11:19am
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The caliber didn't affect the model but the 68s were 50-70. If the trap is hinged to the barrel it is not an 1868. The 1868s were not CW conversions. Do I have that correctly? If the trap is hinged to the barrel I would not personally shoot a 45-70 in it.
  
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Re: 1864 Trapdoor barrel
Reply #4 - Dec 14th, 2025 at 9:31am
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The '68s have a long section of the receiver that the barrel screws into, longer than the '70 or '73, and are easily identified by this. All '68s were 50/70 caliber.
  
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Re: 1864 Trapdoor barrel
Reply #5 - Dec 14th, 2025 at 11:47pm
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The barrel is too short, also.
  
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Re: 1864 Trapdoor barrel
Reply #6 - Dec 15th, 2025 at 3:02am
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Old Soldier wrote on Dec 14th, 2025 at 11:47pm:
The barrel is too short, also.


Thanks for the comments. The barrel and forearm have been shortened. Lock plate is dated 1864.The spring-powered ejector extends through the bottom of the receiver. The first 2-1/2" of the barrel has 5 flatsabove the wood. The rear sight is original. The trap door has a tomahawk-shaped stamp which also appears on the Liege-proofed barrel.The barrel has a 1 68 stamp(Jan. 1868?). The trap door has no "U.S. Model, 18__".
  
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