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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Mann target Dec 11^th, 2025 at 10:49pm	Print Post
	The new Ballard is working out nicely despite the 14 inch twist. Iron sights, 50 feet, standing.

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GT Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2327 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Mann target Reply #1 - Dec 12^th, 2025 at 12:52am	Print Post
	Wes, Nice shooting on the Mann, looks like you minimized the wobble. GT

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #2 - Dec 12^th, 2025 at 3:39am	Print Post
	Wished I could take credit, GT. I'm thinking whoever put the rifle together worked it out so the fast twist creates a gyroscopic stabilizer effect. The ammo is 1240 FPS. The auction didn't mention where or who the rifle came from. Must have been a dang genius.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #3 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 12:30am	Print Post
	Another this evening.

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GT Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2327 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Mann target Reply #4 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 1:08am	Print Post
	That second target is a good one too. I shot that ugly Ballard of mine the other night at a Mann target or two, I think it took three targets to get one worth a picture. It has a RKS 1:12 LH GT on it... doesn't shoot for beans off the bench at 50' but quite well at 100y and beyond. So this offhand target was all about wobbles and jerks.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #5 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 2:05am	Print Post
	That's an excellent target Greg. I see you took five shots. I have been doing three as I thought that was the regular standard accepted amount. Here's one I shot three weeks ago before we took our holiday break. Not absoluteley sure I have it scored right. I scored it as 57. 58? Shooting these as warm up targets before the silhouette match starts. One Mann target and a silhouette practice target. You gotta get warmed up.
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GT Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2327 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Mann target Reply #6 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 7:33am	Print Post
	Wes, I researched this once, what the normal was for number of shots, can't remember, lately, we thought a 100 pts sounded good. I'm sure if someone reading these sees them they'll correct us. We go with leaded edge breaking the arc for score. So in our group that last target would be a 57. Did you ever get any 100yd Mann targets? We enlarged our file drawing and took it to the local print shop to see what they'd charge to run a 100 of them on heavy paper, I didn't want to buy the print shop itself... been meaning to buy a 11x17 printer just for these haven't got a round tuit yet.

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bohemianway Oldtimer Offline Posts: 694 Location: Andover, MN Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Mann target Reply #7 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 9:28am	Print Post
	Is there a public domain Mann target drawing available? We are get Schuetzen going here in Minnesota (50yds) and the Mann is great fun. Thank you, Charles


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2327 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Mann target Reply #8 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 9:48am	Print Post
	Charles, I purchased a package of 200 yd Mann Targets a few years ago and from that we drew them up in Solidworks. From there we scaled them down for 50' and 100 yards. I'll wade through our files and see what I can find, we no longer use Solidworks and I don't recall any of the particulars. I have a PDF of the 50' target that prints on a 8-1/2 x 11 page with no problem I'll share. It's a 3MB drawing and doesn't scale down very well, a PM is on it's way. GT

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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1284 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #9 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 10:23am	Print Post
	While I don't know if there is a public domain version of a Mann target available online, I have a vector based drawing I did of a typical Mann target. It can be scaled to whatever size needed without affecting image resolution. I'm willing to share that file if someone wants to print their own targets. Contact me via PM. Back in the day, the only thing really standard about the Mann was the 1/2 inch width of the vertical stripes. Typically they were 20-24 inches tall. My research revealed the number of shots varied between 3, 4, & 5 depending on the club and event. There is some good info about the Mann target in my book The Golden Age of the American Schuetzenfest. Look up Mann Target and Mann Scheib in the index for specific pages.
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bohemianway Oldtimer Offline Posts: 694 Location: Andover, MN Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Mann target Reply #10 - Jan 9^th, 2026 at 10:44am	Print Post
	I will check with MES (Marty) to see if he has an original from the old days at the Black Wolf Schuetzenverin that I remember using. The silhouette part was black with white lines and no heart in the middle if memory serves. They also had vintage Turkey, Crow, and other targets. Charles


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #11 - Jan 17^th, 2026 at 6:51pm	Print Post
	Mann target from Thursday past. Had a bit of condition...

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #12 - Feb 4^th, 2026 at 10:22am	Print Post
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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7566 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Mann target Reply #13 - Feb 4^th, 2026 at 7:45pm	Print Post
	Very good, Joe!! How are you keeping the muzzle blast, off the paper

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #14 - Feb 5^th, 2026 at 12:37am	Print Post
	Darned if I know Frank. I'm using 1250 FPS Federal ammo. Should be some burn marks on there somewhere. Maybe the fire goes out before the bullet leaves the bore. 30 inch barrel. As you can see I'm fighting a left to right condition. It catches me often. I gotta work on that.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #15 - Feb 5^th, 2026 at 10:54pm	Print Post
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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 3608 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Mann target Reply #16 - Feb 6^th, 2026 at 12:54pm	Print Post
	I don’t get the Mann target. I suppose I could do some research but if I had some shots centered horizontally but at the top and bottom of the target how are they scored? I don’t have Wes Turner’s noodle to figure these things out.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #17 - Feb 6^th, 2026 at 1:05pm	Print Post
	RSW wrote on Jan 9^th, 2026 at 10:23am: While I don't know if there is a public domain version of a Mann target available online, I have a vector based drawing I did of a typical Mann target. It can be scaled to whatever size needed without affecting image resolution. I'm willing to share that file if someone wants to print their own targets. Contact me via PM. Back in the day, the only thing really standard about the Mann was the 1/2 inch width of the vertical stripes. Typically they were 20-24 inches tall. My research revealed the number of shots varied between 3, 4, & 5 depending on the club and event. There is some good info about the Mann target in my book The Golden Age of the American Schuetzenfest. Look up Mann Target and Mann Scheib in the index for specific pages. Read the book. If you don't have the books, buy the books. Your library is important, Jack.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 3608 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Mann target Reply #18 - Feb 6^th, 2026 at 3:26pm	Print Post
	I have the book. I forgot that there were actually books on paper. What a novel idea. How do you keep those things charged?

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #19 - Feb 6^th, 2026 at 5:17pm	Print Post
	Now you understand. Books are good. The easiest and best way to score them is to shoot perfect scores. 20s every shot. I worked with a guy who grew up in Kaysee Wyoming. Said he used to shoot with an old German when he was a kid. Said the old guy always shot at vertical targets like fence posts. Said he was hard on telephone poles.
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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 3608 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Mann target Reply #20 - Feb 6^th, 2026 at 10:16pm	Print Post
	My targets have circles. I like circles. My bullets make little holes that look like circles. My groups are circles. I usually run around in circles. That’s all I am going to say!!!

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #21 - yesterday at 8:35am	Print Post
	Use a round aperture in your front sight Jack. Or if you decide to whimp out, remember your scope has round lenses. Score the target leaded edge. You will get it eventually.

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3882 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Mann target Reply #22 - yesterday at 10:11am	Print Post
	I am skeptical regarding Joe's mention of a Wyoming shooter aiming at only vertical targets. I have been in Wyoming and due to the perpetual wind, there are no vertical objects in that state. I thought Nevada had wind till I went to Wy. Upon returning home I thought of ours as but gentle zephyrs.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17673 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Mann target Reply #23 - yesterday at 10:43am	Print Post
	Looks like if your shots hit the heart then your 19's would be 20's too!

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #24 - yesterday at 12:21pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote yesterday at 10:43am: Looks like if your shots hit the heart then your 19's would be 20's too! And therein lies the beauty of it. Rounds the whole thing out so even people like Jack can understand it.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12168 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Mann target Reply #25 - yesterday at 12:23pm	Print Post
	calledflyer wrote yesterday at 10:11am: I am skeptical regarding Joe's mention of a Wyoming shooter aiming at only vertical targets. I have been in Wyoming and due to the perpetual wind, there are no vertical objects in that state. I thought Nevada had wind till I went to Wy. Upon returning home I thought of ours as but gentle zephyrs. JD lives in Fairbanks now. When asked if he would ever move back to Kaysee, he said no. Refused to give a reason.

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GT Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2327 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Mann target Reply #26 - Today at 8:23pm	Print Post
	Joe, Here's the hundred yard target we did, I hate wasting targets so we all shot five times for score... The tag along pup was so excited he had to bite the corner and tear off a piece. And yes there was some wind, a breeze if you will, 10-20. It's easy to see which shot the wind quit for. GT

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