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Old Soldier Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 345 Location: North Pole, Alaska Joined: Oct 17^th, 2015	Winchester red Nov 19^th, 2025 at 11:33pm	Print Post
	I'm refinishing my Model 70 stock. How do I reproduce that Winchester red color?

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cheatin_charlie Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 413 Location: ohio Joined: Jan 10^th, 2009	Re: Winchester red Reply #1 - Nov 20^th, 2025 at 6:44am	Print Post
	Never tried it but might be what you are looking for. Charlie (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1789 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: Winchester red Reply #2 - Nov 20^th, 2025 at 7:32am	Print Post
	If you're trying to duplicate the Winchester model 70 finish, Winchester used a tinted paste filler like the old Herters French red and then sprayed with a semi-gloss lacquer. Later Winchester Model 70's (late fifties) will have a browner toned filler thnn the Herters French red. I haven't used the new French red but have used the old Herters original French red. It's hard on checkering tools though. There used to be stains called Tapadera N35 and also Pilkington's red but I don't know if they're available anymore . You might also try mixing some Minwax Black Walnut with some Minwax Red Oak to get the right color.
	« Last Edit: Nov 20^th, 2025 at 8:06am by Old-Win »

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Old Soldier Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 345 Location: North Pole, Alaska Joined: Oct 17^th, 2015	Re: Winchester red Reply #3 - Nov 20^th, 2025 at 12:00pm	Print Post
	Thanks, both of you.

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db Participating Member Online Posts: 41 Location: Northern Indiana Joined: Dec 26^th, 2011	Re: Winchester red Reply #4 - Nov 21^st, 2025 at 8:05pm	Print Post
	It is in stock at Art's (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
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Andover Arms Junior Member Offline Posts: 91 Joined: Dec 24^th, 2017	Re: Winchester red Reply #5 - Nov 22^nd, 2025 at 11:01am	Print Post
	If you are looking for the Pre-64 Winchester Red color, I have used this Galazan (Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing Company) kit in the past with excellent results. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if Galazan is still making it or not or where some might still be in stock. Regards, Chris


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Fritz Oldtimer Offline Posts: 518 Location: Texas Joined: Jun 27^th, 2008	Re: Winchester red Reply #6 - Nov 22^nd, 2025 at 4:38pm	Print Post
	One I've used with success was:Winchester Restoration Pre-64 Red Brown stock oil finish. Don Hardcastle 1729 McLennan Waco,Tx 76712-3020 254-848-4755


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Old Soldier Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 345 Location: North Pole, Alaska Joined: Oct 17^th, 2015	Re: Winchester red Reply #7 - Dec 11^th, 2025 at 4:12pm	Print Post
	Thank's all.

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Old_No7 Full Member Offline Posts: 112 Location: Southern Maine Joined: Oct 30^th, 2007	Re: Winchester red Reply #8 - Dec 12^th, 2025 at 9:29am	Print Post
	Maybe too late for the original poster, but I've successfully used Cabot Stains "Gunstock" stain (on a Savage 99A and a High Wall) and it has very pleasing tones of the "red" you seek. Old No7

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Old Soldier Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 345 Location: North Pole, Alaska Joined: Oct 17^th, 2015	Re: Winchester red Reply #9 - Dec 14^th, 2025 at 11:56pm	Print Post
	Got to digging around and I found some Min-wax "gunstock" color stain that looks promising. Of course I don't have enough, but I can test it and if good can buy more in town. To mail order stain quickly makes it $50 a can; when the'll mail it. A local fix would be preferred. Thanks

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Old Soldier Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 345 Location: North Pole, Alaska Joined: Oct 17^th, 2015	Re: Winchester red Reply #10 - Dec 15^th, 2025 at 12:02am	Print Post
	What ever Winchester put on that stock in the 90's, sure did not weather well, so silly me thought it would come off easy enough. That was not the case. Looks like a colored varnish or poly. It eats paint stripper and asks "may I please have more, sir?" I've been a scraping, stripping and scraping for quite a while now. Haven't gotten around to staining yet.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17459 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Winchester red Reply #11 - Dec 15^th, 2025 at 10:39am	Print Post
	After it's stripped try wood bleach on the stock to see if that draws out the color. Need to use wood bleach outdoors and wear a respirator as it's oxalic acid and can be dangerous indoors and without a respirator. Could also try steel wool and acetone, but have to keep it wetted and work fast as it evaporates fast.

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Jonathan Participating Member Offline Posts: 24 Location: THE GOOD PART OF NY Joined: Sep 5^th, 2025	Re: Winchester red Reply #12 - Dec 15^th, 2025 at 10:47am	Print Post
	If you slather Acetone on the stock and use a razor blade for a scraper that stuff will come right off. On the checkering likewise but use a bronze brush. I don't mind the smell but then again I have few brain cells left.


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Old Soldier Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 345 Location: North Pole, Alaska Joined: Oct 17^th, 2015	Re: Winchester red Reply #13 - Dec 18^th, 2025 at 1:23pm	Print Post
	Guys, I live in Alaska. It is 30 below, wait I exaggerate. It warmed up to 20 below today. I'll not be working outside for months. When it comes to brain cells, I work on the buffalo herd theory. Wolves circle the herd, and pray on the sick and the weak. The same is true of chemicals and brain cells. They kill brain cells alright, but like wolves they only get the sick and the weak. My wife the nurse however really raises hell when she catches me huffing, or casting in the house. I have to have the air clean before she comes home from work. An open window and a fan are not the hot tip this time of year either. What to do, what to do?

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