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Re: Ron Long Ballard
Reply #15 - Nov 17th, 2025 at 4:08pm
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JKR wrote on Nov 17th, 2025 at 4:04pm:
The rifle at Track is attributed to Ron Long but not signed.


That's too bad. Always tough for a buyer to take someone's word on who built it when it's unmarked. 
I have a Schoyen barrel here on a rifle that I know is Schoyen, and has his rifling, but somebody polished his name off the top flat. Really hurts it's value.
  

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Reply #16 - Nov 17th, 2025 at 4:46pm
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Looking forward to seeing photos.

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Reply #17 - Nov 17th, 2025 at 5:01pm
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I took a bunch of pictures, however it looks like I can only upload one picture at a greatly reduced file size.  If you want a better look contact me via email and I can send better pictures.  I'm trying something new I created a file on One Drive Ron Long Ballard and put all the pictures in there.  It generated this link and see if it works.

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Re: Ron Long Ballard
Reply #18 - Nov 17th, 2025 at 6:37pm
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marlinguy wrote on Nov 17th, 2025 at 4:08pm:
JKR wrote on Nov 17th, 2025 at 4:04pm:
The rifle at Track is attributed to Ron Long but not signed.


That's too bad. Always tough for a buyer to take someone's word on who built it when it's unmarked. 
I have a Schoyen barrel here on a rifle that I know is Schoyen, and has his rifling, but somebody polished his name off the top flat. Really hurts it's value.


That’s what I was thinking. $5500 for a Ron Long rifle. I’d sure want to see his name on it!
  
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Re: Ron Long Ballard
Reply #19 - Nov 17th, 2025 at 7:17pm
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The action and palm rest hardware look like Rons work. The stocks and palm rest handle are not. Not Rons checkering.
  

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Very nice rifle and misc. tools. Looks like it was built on the typical Pacific action.
  

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Reply #21 - yesterday at 5:15pm
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This has been interesting, I'm learning more about the man and the rifle.  What's a Pacific action?
  
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Reply #22 - yesterday at 6:50pm
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Bob wrote yesterday at 5:15pm:
This has been interesting, I'm learning more about the man and the rifle.  What's a Pacific action? 


Marlin put names and numbers to each model they made. The Pacific was the #5 Pacific model. This is a #5 Pacific action:
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They had an unnamed model 0 that was basically a Ballard assembled from leftover parts from Brown Mfg. co. after they failed. Then it went on as:
#1 Sporting Rifle
#1 1/2 Sporting Rifle
#2 Sporting Rifle
#3 Gallery
#3 Pistol Grip Gallery
#3F Fine Gallery
#4 Perfection
#4 1/4 (Like a Pacific, but single trigger
#4 1/2 Mid-Range
#4 1/2 A1 engraved
#5 Pacific
#5 1/2 Montana
#6 Scheutzen
#6 1/2 Rigby (made straight grip first year and pistol grip all later years)
#7 Long-Range
#7 A1-engraved 
#8 Union Hill (set triggers)
#9 Union Hill (single trigger)
#10 Scheutzen Junior

That's just cataloged models, not including special order features available on almost any model! You could doll up the plainest of models to be totally unrecognizable, and almost every straight grip model could be special ordered as a pistol grip also. 
Sometimes additional special order features stump people as to what model they even have. This one stumped me when I bought it years ago.
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It's a pistol grip, loop lever, nickeled receiver and lever, deluxe wood, checkered, cheekpiece, horn tip forearm, small Farrow buttplate, and chambered in .32 Long CF on a cast #2 action!
 
This is a standard #2 Sporting Rifle (scope not original to the model):
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As you can see with enough options added the first #2 is certainly not anything close to resembling the 2nd factory stock #2.
Ballards can really baffle collectors when special orders and later custom gunsmiths begin changing them from factory catalog standards.


  

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