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understanding Stevens/CPA takedown system
Nov 4th, 2025 at 1:02pm
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In the Stevens/CPA takedown system the barrel is threaded on hand tight and the set screw on the bottom locks the barrel in place.   Doesn't the set screw have a tendency to change the tension on the threads?  It seems to me that tightening the conical set screw would either pull the barrel away from the receiver or push it in further depending on how it was machined. 

I was thinking about this the other day after I'd read a few posts on other forums where people have had to send their silhouette rifles back to CPA occasionally to "have the action threads tightened up".  I also have no idea how that would be accomplished!  Any thoughts?

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Reply #1 - Nov 4th, 2025 at 2:21pm
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I never had any of the screw barrel rifles but a Savage 99. it was tight due to no having been disassembled much. I did hear several fellows over time mention that the Winchester take down did wear over time, but I assumed that was the rubbing of the two faces that came together at the right place. Winchester, did, put an adjustment screw on the those rifles for the eventuality. Nobody mentioned the threads unless treated badly. So, is the Stevens system really wearing the threads, or is it some other possibility. 
Just food for thought..............
  
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Re: understanding Stevens/CPA takedown system
Reply #2 - Nov 4th, 2025 at 2:29pm
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I have a CPA 4 barrel set. The barrels threads into the receiver until it butts up against the receiver. The set screw it then tightened to keep the barrel from unscrewing. My CPA with the 32-40 barrel has been shot several thousand times. A usual match is about 80 rounds. Then the barrel is unscrewed from the receiver for storage. The threads on the barrel and receiver as tight as they were when new.

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Re: understanding Stevens/CPA takedown system
Reply #3 - Nov 5th, 2025 at 11:09am
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Sure, most people have no troubles.  None of my CPA's have had any either, but I've heard of a number of people shooting silhouette with them ( perhaps because of the greater recoiling cartridges used ? ), that had the rifles sent back to have the action threads "tightened up" somehow.

It seems to me that problems can only happen if slack is in the threads and they get hammered repeatedly.  The slack could simply be from people not keeping the threads clean, barrel shoulder, or the action face.  It would probably take only a little bit of grit in there to cause trouble I believe. 

But I'm more interested in the geometry of the conical set screw.  Depending on the design and machining tolerances it might not act to keep the threads tight at all.  The Steven's design seems kind of odd to me.    

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Re: understanding Stevens/CPA takedown system
Reply #4 - Nov 5th, 2025 at 11:20am
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Is the trick not in simply having a set screw that seats squarely into its recess, but rather that the set screw impinges ever so slightly against the rearmost area of its recess, to exert a small bit of extra force rearward to maintain solid lockup?

In any event there's a lot riding on that screw's accurate placement.
  
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Reply #5 - Nov 5th, 2025 at 11:44am
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I wouldn't think the screw, properly done, is doing anything besides insuring the barrel is correctly seated in the action threads so that the extractor, headspace and intended load on the threads. Question:...
Would it be such a scary thing to fire the rifle with the screw loose or missing? Not as a regular way to use the gun, but just once or twice. I am certain that it has been done inadvertently.
  
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Re: understanding Stevens/CPA takedown system
Reply #6 - Nov 5th, 2025 at 2:59pm
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I haven't measured mine to see if they are offset in any way.  I assume that they are slightly offset so that they slightly tighten the barrel, but that made me wonder exactly how it is set up.

On one of my rifles I did once have that screw back off once. It was shortly after I bought it and it caused some inconsistency on the target.  I must not have tightened it enough, but it's never happened again and the rifle shoots great.

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Reply #7 - Nov 5th, 2025 at 3:32pm
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My 2 cents, while anything listed above could happen in theory, let's remember that the barrel retention screw has one purpose and that is to keep the barrel from unscrewing and there is not a lot of rotational force on the barrel when fired. Presuming the rifle is head spaced correctly (which is a function of the shoulder, the breech face, and the actual chamber depth or lack of) the barrel screw has nothing to do with it other than making sure the barrel doesn't back out and increase head space. We are not cranking the screw down, just tightening it. Now if the screw was offset (right of left) to the recess could tightening it result in screwing the barrel in or out in some small way, I suppose. I have done many of them, but I am not an engineer so I will defer to them if they think otherwise. Regards and interesting question, Chris.
  
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Reply #8 - Nov 5th, 2025 at 4:04pm
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I have several CPA's and some get a barrel swap often.  Never experienced an issue with the barrel not indexing correctly with the receiver.  I just "snug" the retaining screw tight enough so it won't shoot loose.
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Re: understanding Stevens/CPA takedown system
Reply #9 - Nov 5th, 2025 at 6:14pm
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If you want to test the offset screw theory just apply some dykem blue or even a sharpie will work to the tapered area in the barrel then screw the setscrew in place. Remove it and look to see where it was bearing on and that should tell you. I did this on a 44 once and it was indeed bearing on the rear most area of the recess which would "snug up" the barrel so to speak.



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Re: understanding Stevens/CPA takedown system
Reply #10 - Nov 5th, 2025 at 7:32pm
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Seems like I saw somewhere that it also serves to press the barrel's threads against the receiver's threads to take out all slack.
  
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Re: understanding Stevens/CPA takedown system
Reply #11 - Nov 6th, 2025 at 11:59am
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It's all pretty interesting and I could imagine a couple of ways for that screw to be set up.   

In the end I have to wonder how much it matters. It seems important to me, but if you look at this thread and scroll down to Jerry Hartwig's post it'll make you wonder.  He's a heck of a good shot. 

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nineteen76 wrote Today at 11:53am:
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Yeah I've seen that one.  It's nice to see some CPA videos on youtube!

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