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Jarhead Jim Newbie Offline Posts: 6 Location: Bartley Neb Joined: Oct 24^th, 2025	Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Oct 26^th, 2025 at 1:01am	Print Post
	Getting a Shiloh 45-90 and looking for everyone’s favorite BP loads using a paper patch. I have played with a 45-120 with PP with ho him results in the past. Also have a 550 grain money bullet mold…. Jim


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Ranch13 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 608 Location: East Central Wy. Joined: Jan 20^th, 2018	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #1 - Oct 26^th, 2025 at 9:56am	Print Post
	My 45 caliber shiloh's get along best with .446 diameter bullets , cast 16-1,wrapped in seth cole 55y or 55 w paper. Nothing heavier than 535 grains , ie nothing longer than 1.45 long. My 77 gets along best with 79 grains of 1 1/2, but my other 90's prefer 84 grains.


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Jarhead Jim Newbie Offline Posts: 6 Location: Bartley Neb Joined: Oct 24^th, 2025	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #2 - Oct 26^th, 2025 at 10:14am	Print Post
	Ranch13 wrote on Oct 26^th, 2025 at 9:56am: My 45 caliber shiloh's get along best with .446 diameter bullets , cast 16-1,wrapped in seth cole 55y or 55 w paper. Nothing heavier than 535 grains , ie nothing longer than 1.45 long. My 77 gets along best with 79 grains of 1 1/2, but my other 90's prefer 84 grains. My 45-120 used a .446 Buffalo Arms money bullet and Seth Cole #55y too so at least I have the paper and a ton of powder and 16-1 lead. I’ve been reading the 550 is a bit too heavy also. Jim


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Ranch13 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 608 Location: East Central Wy. Joined: Jan 20^th, 2018	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #3 - Oct 26^th, 2025 at 10:27am	Print Post
	The 77 gets along best with the 525 money bullet, but the other 90's do well at 1000 with the the 535,


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2451 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #4 - Oct 26^th, 2025 at 12:05pm	Print Post
	I pretty much agree with Don on this. In most of my PP rifles a .446" 535gr Money with Seth Cole 55W is the ticket. I run mine through a .450" Lee sizer after patching either wet or dry. A single 0.060" LDPE wad over the powder with the bullet 0.1 to 0.125 in the case. Lots of people like Swiss 1.5 in that cartridge but a while back I started on a new lot of Swiss Fg that really shoots extremely well. I have also had decent results with a few other bullets. .443 530gr BACO elliptical with 8lb Eesleek paper. Good, but not quite as good as the Money. Also I have a .445" 535gr PJ Money that I haven't used quite as much. The BACO 446545M has shot some stellar groups out of a 1:16 twist 45-90 but I think it prefers the shorter 535gr bullet if the wind is bad. Chris.


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JKR Full Member Online Posts: 101 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2021	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #5 - Oct 26^th, 2025 at 6:36pm	Print Post
	You won’t have any problems since you’ve already been patching your 120. Take Dons advice on bullet length. A good fit to your bore is important, I think. I check by pushing a patched bullet through the bore with a cleaning rod. I want to feel some resistance but not too much. As for a load, here’s mine for what it’s worth. I fill the case to the mouth from the drop tube leaving enough room for a .060” P Wad. That’s 93 to 95 grains of Swiss 1 1/2 depending on the powder lot. I compress .1” and set the patched bullet on top. Squeeze the case mouth just enough to hold the bullet loosely. This process has served me well with both the 45-70 and 45-90. These are of course target loads. Hunting ammo is a different animal. JKR


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Jarhead Jim Newbie Offline Posts: 6 Location: Bartley Neb Joined: Oct 24^th, 2025	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #6 - Oct 26^th, 2025 at 9:02pm	Print Post
	Thanks fellas! I’m going to look into a lighter bullet mold and see if I can find someone to trade my 2f for 1f. I have a ton of the stuff. All Gotex unfortunately, not Swiss…. Jim


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2451 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #7 - Oct 26^th, 2025 at 11:20pm	Print Post
	I have had decent results with goex fg but not nearly as good as Swiss fg. Id stick with the 2f if it's plain goex and not Old Eynesford Chris


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Ranch13 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 608 Location: East Central Wy. Joined: Jan 20^th, 2018	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #8 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 11:37am	Print Post
	Stick with your 2 f. ! F doesn't work as well in my 90's as it does with the longer straight cases or the bottlenecks. My shooting partner uses 2f most of the time in his 90's.


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Jarhead Jim Newbie Offline Posts: 6 Location: Bartley Neb Joined: Oct 24^th, 2025	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #9 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 9:12pm	Print Post
	Ranch13 wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 11:37am: Stick with your 2 f. ! F doesn't work as well in my 90's as it does with the longer straight cases or the bottlenecks. My shooting partner uses 2f most of the time in his 90's. Now, that’s what I was wanting to hear! I was going to try 2f anyways since that’s what I have the most of. I’ll use 1f too since it’s popular with other shooters. What grain bullet do you and your buddy shoot? Jim


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Ranch13 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 608 Location: East Central Wy. Joined: Jan 20^th, 2018	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #10 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 9:24pm	Print Post
	Most of the bullets I shoot in the 4590 are 535, except my Shiloh 77 likes the 525 better. Eddie shoots mostly a 535, one of them I kid him that it looks more like a flying jon boat, the other is a creedmoor nose profile. But when he loads that jon boat ahead of 85 grains of 2f wrapped in 8 lb paper there's gonna be hell to pay on the score board LOL Think he's running 88 with the creedmoor. But then he won a few cans of Swiss 1 1/2 and I'm not sure what he's loading but it doesn't seem to be shooting as well as his 2f loads, but some of that could be because we're both well past that 70 year old mark...


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Jarhead Jim Newbie Offline Posts: 6 Location: Bartley Neb Joined: Oct 24^th, 2025	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #11 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 11:17pm	Print Post
	Ranch13 wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 9:24pm: Most of the bullets I shoot in the 4590 are 535, except my Shiloh 77 likes the 525 better. Eddie shoots mostly a 535, one of them I kid him that it looks more like a flying jon boat, the other is a creedmoor nose profile. But when he loads that jon boat ahead of 85 grains of 2f wrapped in 8 lb paper there's gonna be hell to pay on the score board LOL Think he's running 88 But then he won a few cans of Swiss 1 1/2 and I'm not sure what he's loading but it doesn't seem to be shooting as well as his 2f loads, but some of that could be because we're both well past that 70 year old mark... Looks like the 535 is pretty popular. I’ll get Buf Arms to make me a Money bullet like my 550 in .446 and get to work! I’m 60 and eyes aren’t the best too. lol Thanks fellas! Jim


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Ranch13 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 608 Location: East Central Wy. Joined: Jan 20^th, 2018	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #12 - Oct 28^th, 2025 at 12:10am	Print Post
	The .446535m in BAcos line up is quite good


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Jarhead Jim Newbie Offline Posts: 6 Location: Bartley Neb Joined: Oct 24^th, 2025	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #13 - Oct 28^th, 2025 at 1:31pm	Print Post
	Ranch13 wrote on Oct 28^th, 2025 at 12:10am: The .446535m in BAcos line up is quite good That’s the one I’m looking at, unfortunately out of stock…. 3 weeks out. Jim
	« Last Edit: Oct 28^th, 2025 at 4:06pm by Jarhead Jim »

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JKR Full Member Online Posts: 101 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2021	Re: Looking for 45-90 PP loads. Reply #14 - Oct 28^th, 2025 at 2:05pm	Print Post
	Jim, They’re always listed as “out of stock”. They build them on a custom basis. Just order what you want. It usually takes a couple weeks. JKR


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