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Value of converted Lo-Wall
Oct 24th, 2025 at 1:18pm
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I've recently had a very early Lo-Wall converted from .25RF to .38 Special with all the appropriate receiver internals properly done.  I now have a very usable rifle with the original Lyman tang peep sight.
Are there many '85 admirers who would be interested in a converted caliber 1885, and how deeply into their pockets would they dig to buy one if found~?  It was converted to .38 Special because reloading components are so readily available.  The stocks were also stripped to the bare wood and refinished the old fashion way with hand rubbed BLO.  Nothing at all was done to the exterior metal parts which if done would make a beautiful rifle.  I have no plans to sell this unique specimen in the foreseeable future.
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Reply #1 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 4:01pm
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Old+timer wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
I've recently had a very early Lo-Wall converted from .25RF to .38 Special with all the appropriate receiver internals properly done.  I now have a very usable rifle with the original Lyman tang peep sight.
Are there many '85 admirers who would be interested in a converted caliber 1885, and how deeply into their pockets would they dig to buy one if found~?  It was converted to .38 Special because reloading components are so readily available.  The stocks were also stripped to the bare wood and refinished the old fashion way with hand rubbed BLO.  Nothing at all was done to the exterior metal parts which if done would make a beautiful rifle.  I have no plans to sell this unique specimen in the foreseeable future.


It's really impossible to give a value on any gun without seeing it. If I asked you what my '69 Suburban was worth without telling you much about it I bet you couldn't give me an accurate value either.
  

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Reply #2 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 4:09pm
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Your suburban is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.  I'll give you a buck two fifty if it runs. 
A low wall in 38 special may only be worth under a $1000 or so unless it has special features unless you find someone who really wants a shooter in that caliber. I am working on (someday) putting a 357 magnum barrel from a Ballard onto a small shank high wall and reaming it out to 357 MAX just because I can.  I found a reamer on eBay cheap.  I am doing it just to try that chambering knowing I am not really adding value.

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Reply #3 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 4:12pm
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bpjack wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 4:09pm:
Your suburban is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.  I'll give you a buck two fifty if it runs. 


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It runs, so it's worth at least $5!
  

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Reply #4 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 4:35pm
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OK, I'll give ya $7.50 if the tires are decent.
  
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calledflyer wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 4:35pm:
OK, I'll give ya $7.50 if the tires are decent.


Waiting to see how high the bidding goes first, but you're the leader so far!
  

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Reply #6 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 5:01pm
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I'll give you $10 if you keep it!
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm
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Does it have an obsolete and underpowered engine that you can’t find fuel for?
  
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Reply #8 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 6:21pm
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marlinguy wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 4:01pm:
Old+timer wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 1:18pm:
I've recently had a very early Lo-Wall converted from .25RF to .38 Special with all the appropriate receiver internals properly done.  I now have a very usable rifle with the original Lyman tang peep sight.
Are there many '85 admirers who would be interested in a converted caliber 1885, and how deeply into their pockets would they dig to buy one if found~?  It was converted to .38 Special because reloading components are so readily available.  The stocks were also stripped to the bare wood and refinished the old fashion way with hand rubbed BLO.  Nothing at all was done to the exterior metal parts which if done would make a beautiful rifle.  I have no plans to sell this unique specimen in the foreseeable future.


It's really impossible to give a value on any gun without seeing it. If I asked you what my '69 Suburban was worth without telling you much about it I bet you couldn't give me an accurate value either.

I guess I did make reference to value when I asked 'how deep in their pockets would they reach'.  I wouldn't expect anyone to know the answer that.  What really wanted to know is do you thing there would be anybody but myself interested in such a rifle~?
  
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Reply #9 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 7:00pm
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I paid $75 for a nice LoWall in 22 K-Hornet. It's been a while;-) If you could prove it was a good shooter at 100 meters it might attract a Pistol Cartridge Cowboy Silhouette shooter. Otherwise, maybe a good plinker for a grandchild or niece or nephew.
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Reply #10 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 8:31pm
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I'd give $500 or so to rebarrel to an appropriate caliber. Maybe use the barrel in a small shank high wall. Not what you want to hear, but you made that decision when you picked the cartridge
  
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Reply #11 - Oct 24th, 2025 at 9:31pm
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I would not buy it. Wrong caliber for the rifle. 

You sure got that done fast. Why just the other day you couldn't make up your mind what to do with it. Time warp?
  

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Reply #12 - Oct 25th, 2025 at 1:23am
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A low wall in 38 special would be of interest to me.So would one in 38 Max. I could load the max with FFFG BP and have a fun little rifle. It would be very much like an English rook rifle, which I very much lust after. Come on guys, what is a low wall for? It ain't an Elk gun. It's a fun little plinker. A 38 in a long gun is a great little plinker. I'd be able to use it for squirrels, bunnies, even grouse, it'd be great fun.(Before you lecture me on shooting grouse with a rifle, know that the most common grouse gun in Alaska is a .22 rifle. We call spruce grouse "fools hens". They will not flush. They run ahead of you on the ground, or they tree. Most shots are about 10 yards, and we head shoot them). Have fun with your little rifle. I'd be in the market for a 20" TC barrel in .38 for the same purpose.
  

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Old Soldier wrote on Oct 25th, 2025 at 1:23am:
A low wall in 38 special would be of interest to me.So would one in 38 Max. I could load the max with FFFG BP and have a fun little rifle. It would be very much like an English rook rifle, which I very much lust after. Come on guys, what is a low wall for? It ain't an Elk gun. It's a fun little plinker. A 38 in a long gun is a great little plinker. I'd be able to use it for squirrels, bunnies, even grouse, it'd be great fun.(Before you lecture me on shooting grouse with a rifle, know that the most common grouse gun in Alaska is a .22 rifle. We call spruce grouse "fools hens". They will not flush. They run ahead of you on the ground, or they tree. Most shots are about 10 yards, and we head shoot them). Have fun with your little rifle. I'd be in the market for a 20" TC barrel in .38 for the same purpose.


Expectations are a 1/2 MOA target rifle.
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 25th, 2025 at 9:19am
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westerner wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 9:31pm:
I would not buy it. Wrong caliber for the rifle. 

You sure got that done fast. Why just the other day you couldn't make up your mind what to do with it. Time warp?

I've accumulated a bunch of responses which helped me narrow my choices down to one of my original thoughts.  I've made my decision and chosen my gunsmith, and now we are just waiting for the correct chamber reamer to show up which is on order.  In the meantime I've acquired a Beech Combination sight.  I already have a Marble tang peep sight.  The only thing we're waiting for is for someone to tell me what Winchester used to finish their stocks in 1890, but that's not something that will hold me up because I can do any time.
I think I've already told you that I don't anticipate trying to sell it for a long, long time~!!
  
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Reply #15 - Oct 25th, 2025 at 9:47am
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It's really impossible to give a value on any gun without seeing it. If I asked you what my '69 Suburban was worth without telling you much about it I bet you couldn't give me an accurate value either. [/quote]
I wouldn't be interested in a '69 anything.  The number 69 is too suggestive and has too many sexual implications~!
  
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Reply #16 - Oct 25th, 2025 at 10:38am
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I'm so confused and tired of this line of yours, that when finished I hope it leads the barrel, shoot's patterns and is twice as expensive as any hope of reselling- now or in 'a long, long time'.
I am rarely this antagonistic (nowadays), but I make an exception here. Got any new things to talk about, like buying a nice .32rf or something?
  
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Reply #17 - Oct 25th, 2025 at 10:45am
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Old+timer wrote on Oct 25th, 2025 at 9:47am:
[quote author=676B786663646D7F730A0 link=176132628

It's really impossible to give a value on any gun without seeing it. If I asked you what my '69 Suburban was worth without telling you much about it I bet you couldn't give me an accurate value either.

I wouldn't be interested in a '69 anything.  The number 69 is too suggestive and has too many sexual implications~! [/quote]

I'm not that kinky to tie the number '69 to anything sexual. Or feel it has to have sexual implications. If a guy was warped enough for that he'd have a terrible time when he reached age 69 and had to live a year with that.
  

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Reply #18 - Oct 25th, 2025 at 12:26pm
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When Winchester made Low Walls, did they make them in .38 Special?  I thought the originals were High Walls.  I have only seen one.
  
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Old+timer wrote on Oct 24th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
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I guess I did make reference to value when I asked 'how deep in their pockets would they reach'.  I wouldn't expect anyone to know the answer that.  What really wanted to know is do you thing there would be anybody but myself interested in such a rifle~?


Or maybe you forgot the title of your thread? "Value of converted Lo-Wall"??
  

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Reply #20 - Oct 25th, 2025 at 2:18pm
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The 1916 Winchester sales catalog does not list the 38 special as a factory chambering.  Interestingly Winchester does not refer to the rifles and model 1885s, only as the Winchester Single Shot.  There is also no mention of low wall or high wall variations in this catalog or the first catalog that the single shot rifle appeared in.
  

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Reply #21 - Oct 29th, 2025 at 8:18pm
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Dillett Did you read low wall? A 1/2" target rifle? Really?
How about something fun to carry and shoot?
  

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Reply #22 - Oct 29th, 2025 at 10:16pm
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Old Soldier wrote on Oct 29th, 2025 at 8:18pm:
Dillett Did you read low wall? A 1/2" target rifle? Really?
How about something fun to carry and shoot?

Yes sir, read this thread and most of his others. 

I’m not the one hoping for a 1/2 MOA target rifle chambered in 38 Special, Old+Timer is. This has been about going on for more than 3 years. Still no shots fired.
  
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