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Oct 10th, 2025 at 7:42pm
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OOOP'S I did it again. The "no more rifles for me didn't work."
This time it is a high wall by O. A. Bremer, San Francisco. I am sure I paid too much at auction for it but none the less it's now mine. Showed up via UPS this afternoon. First job was run a brush thru the bore to see what I have. Several strokes with a brush followed with a few patches. Out came my Tesalong borescope and I found the bore at 99%. Dropped the breach block and cleaned out the old lube. The hammer has been modified with the thumb piece removed and only a full cock notch remains. No fly. The triggers I am sure are Bremers. The set trigger sets but will not drop the hammer with the first pull but always work correctly with the second set and pull. I will do more work on them in the near future. The front trigger pull, with not being set, is real heavy but will drop the hammer. The bore is 22 short. A 22 lr. will not chamber. The barrel is a #3 Winchester, 28". The front sight is a Beach globe and the rear is a Lyman with the windage adjustable top. The adjustments on the sight are real stiff but a little oil and they now work fine. The barrel has been drilled for scope blocks set at 9" on center. The extractor is in great shape and the firing pin is also good with .040" tip with the hammer down. Now I have get to the range and see what it will do.
Anyone else have and experance with Bremer triggers?
A. J. Palik

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Reply #1 - Oct 10th, 2025 at 7:48pm
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Reply #2 - Oct 10th, 2025 at 8:21pm
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Nice looking target rifle you have there. I have also told myself "No more rifles". I'm just wondering what will I buy next. It's a sickness as you well know. Anyway, enjoy it A.J. Let us know how it shoots. Dale.
  

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Reply #3 - Oct 10th, 2025 at 8:27pm
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Bremer's custom scheutzen single shot rifles are some of the finest made! Not as well known as the big names, but his triggers are some of the best I've ever felt. His stocks are just perfect, without being so specialized as to only fit the original shooter. They just have a beautiful style that I really like. I'd be happy to own a Bemer if I found one I could afford, regardless. I think he's one of the great masters.
  

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Reply #4 - Oct 10th, 2025 at 8:28pm
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Did you recently win the lottery?  Grin

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Reply #5 - Oct 10th, 2025 at 8:29pm
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Bremer tool and Bullseye Bullets
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Reply #8 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 8:17am
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Ha!  I was bidding on that but you beat me!!!  It’s a beautiful rifle and I am happy that you got it!  Good luck with the triggers and keep us posted!

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Reply #9 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 9:33pm
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This afternoon I had some time so I disassembled the breach block. The hammer has been lightened and the spur has been ground off. There is no half cocked notch as it is being used as a full cock notch. When the lever is lowered the hammer goes to full cock and there isn't any way to lower the  hammer other than pulling the trigger. I do not like to dry fire without a round in the chamber. I have another hammer coming to me so I will refit the rifle so I can lower the hammer with the hammer spur. Here is some pictures of the hammer in the rifle and the one I am going to replace it with.
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Reply #10 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 9:41pm
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I have a Bremer rifle with Bremer's patent triggers. At least on my rifle, I can push the back trigger forward while closing the action and lower the hammer.
  
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Reply #11 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 11:00pm
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You may run into an issue where the hammer drops into 1/2 cock with that standard replacement hammer.  That is why the fly is installed on Winchester set trigger hammers.  The simple solution unless you want to source a hammer with a fly is to grind off the 1/2 cock notch.

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Reply #12 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 11:26pm
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I will only use this rifle at the range and only load it when I am ready to shoot. The original hammer uses the half cock notch as a full cock notch. I thought I would use some JB weld and plug the half cock notch and see how the trigger pull is. If I am not happy with that then I will do some grinding on the hammer. If I grind the hammer and use the half cock notch I most likely need to reharden it. I have some Kasenit on hand.
QUESTION: if I reharden the hammer should I draw the temper and if so what temperature should I use?
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Reply #13 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 5:56pm
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Today I was able to install the new to me hammer. I filled the half cock notch with JB Weld after super cleaning the notch so it would bond. When fully hardened it was dressed with a file. I might have to do something to the Bremer Patented triggers as they set OK but will not drop the hammer until the second set and pull. It does this every time and I am wondering if they were designed this way. Someone chimed in and said that they also had a Brener with patented triggers and I am wondering if theirs work the same.
I hope to get to the range in the next couple of days to see how it shoots. I have 5 different kinds of 22 shorts on hand.
The pictures are with the original hammer and with the new hammer.

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Reply #14 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 6:17pm
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My sons Bremmer HW with Bremer triggers works normally.
I don't see any advantage in the Bremer triggers. The hammer should fall when you trip the trigger every time. Something is amiss with a spring somewhere. Maybe to much spring pressure on the sear or not enough pressure on the rear trigger. Or something is binding and slowing trigger / sear action. Needs a fly?
  

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Reply #15 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 6:43pm
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Try loosening the screw that holds the sear spring to make it a bit weaker to see if that is the issue.
  

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Reply #16 - Oct 17th, 2025 at 6:58pm
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I will try loosening the sear spring and see if that is the problem.
The set trigger spring seems to be about right but may have weakened over the years.
Thanks for the ideas. I will keep you updated
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Reply #17 - Oct 18th, 2025 at 12:49pm
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PROBLEN SOLVED
The sear spring was too firm. 20 minutes with a diamond stone and adjustment to the sear spring screw and the set trigger works every time. A BIG thank you to westerner and bpjack for sending me in the right direction.

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Reply #19 - Oct 18th, 2025 at 8:22pm
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Reply #21 - Oct 19th, 2025 at 10:38am
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Super neat rifle. Now a gallery match. League? Postal?
  

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Reply #22 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 6:48pm
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I have made and fitted a set of scope blocks on the Bremer. The barrel was already drilled and tapped at 5-40 and non-standard
hole spacing. About 20 years I got a Unertl 1 & 1/2" 10 power scope and it has been sitting waiting for a rifle. Well today is the day it gets used. The temp was in the 40's and the wind was gusting about 20 mph. Off a solid rest at 25 yards it did well. The range I shoot at has 5 swingers at 25 yds. The largest the size of a small dinner plate and the smallest the size of a gold ball. The rifle with scope weights 13 lbs. I hit 5 out of 5 offhand and this old body said it was time to quit. I shot about 100 rounds off the rest. Here is a few of the targets.

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Reply #23 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 6:53pm
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Sure looks like a keeper AJ! 
By the way, your Bremer buttplate looks just like mine where it fits to the stock, but mine got it's prongs chopped off. I'm in the process of brazing donor prongs back on mine to return it to the same as yours.

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Reply #24 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 7:42pm
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Looks like a job for a steady hand and good temperature control.
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Oldman1950 wrote on Oct 28th, 2025 at 7:42pm:
Looks like a job for a steady hand and good temperature control.
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I've replaced a couple previously AJ and they braze up pretty easy. I'll install a washer between the buttplate and prongs before brazing to give a small gap for the brazing rod to fill into so when I shape it down smooth it wont show a parting line.
The buttplate and prongs will likely be different alloys, so some brass black to "antique" the buttplate will help blend them and make a match better.
  

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Reply #26 - Oct 29th, 2025 at 5:37pm
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Still needs final shaping, polishing, and antiquing, but the hard part is done now!

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Lever had a missing tang at the rear also, and got it made and welded back on also.

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Reply #27 - Oct 29th, 2025 at 5:47pm
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Reply #28 - Oct 29th, 2025 at 6:02pm
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That came out VERY NICE

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bpjack wrote on Oct 29th, 2025 at 5:47pm:
Looking good there HighwallGuy. 


How about a compromise with Highmarlinguy?
  

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Oldman1950 wrote on Oct 29th, 2025 at 6:02pm:
That came out VERY NICE

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Thanks AJ! It was a little tougher than previous lighter buttplates. Had to concentrate the heat on the prongs first and when the brazing rod flowed on them then move the heat to the adjacent buttplate to get it to continue to flow. Then once it flowed to both swing back and build it up to above level to have enough to grind off flush.
The lever was a piece of cake in comparison.
  

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You taking up smoking dope Vall?  That would explain the high walls Smiley


Like you Jack, we live in states where a guy can get a contact high just walking down the sidewalk! I know of about 4 places where I can just drive by and know there's a commercial pot grow in one of those buildings!
  

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Reply #33 - Oct 29th, 2025 at 10:43pm
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In Vietnam there was a guy who was stoned All the time.  I have a photo of him in my album where he is leaning back in a lawn chair on top of a sandbagged bunker in the hot sun.  They had pulled him out of a combat unit so he wouldn't get someone else killed.  His only job was to show up at the sergeant's office at 4:30 and sit there for an hour just in case the phone rang. One day the siren went off indicating incoming rockets.  They estimated it was a couple of minutes until a rocket hit the roof over his head.  Plenty of time to make it 10 feet into the attached underground bunker.  They found him in the chair with a 1.5" piece or wood sticking out of his head.  If anyone needed a lesson on not getting stoned this was it.
  

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Reply #34 - Oct 30th, 2025 at 9:36am
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Well hopefully he was stoned enough to not feel any pain. Sounds like a quick end anyway.
  

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