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1859 sharps identification assistance
Oct 4th, 2025 at 10:32am
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I'm hoping a member with extensive knowledge of early sharps 1859 rifles and perhaps the appropriate books could assist me in identifying a rifle i have in my possession. What appears to be an arsenal refurbishment to myself, I'd like to decipher anomalies in regards to cartouches. Lack of a SN and the overall condition of the rifle.

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Reply #1 - Oct 4th, 2025 at 11:39am
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Reply #2 - Oct 4th, 2025 at 12:17pm
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Reply #3 - Oct 4th, 2025 at 1:14pm
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Very nice bore. That rifle should shoot.




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Reply #4 - Oct 4th, 2025 at 3:20pm
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Stamp on the left side of the barrel doesn’t look like a military stamp. That area was usually reserved for Cavalry stamps. Example F10 Cav. Which is F company 10th Cav. 10th Cav. Were the Buffalo Soldiers. The left side of the frame was welded up for some reason. The barrel should have markings under the fore arm they match the serial number in the tang which usually start with a “c”. If it has a patch box it’s a ‘59 model. Top of the barrel should say “new model 59” on the top between the sight and the action.

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Reply #5 - Oct 4th, 2025 at 3:27pm
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You referred that this was a rifle not a carbine, correct?




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Reply #6 - Oct 4th, 2025 at 3:46pm
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[quote author=497270567174737A786F1D0 link=1759588359/4#4 date=1759605608]Stamp on the left side of the barrel doesn’t look like a military stamp. That area was usually reserved for Cavalry stamps. Example F10 Cav. Which is F company 10th Cav. 10th Cav. Were the Buffalo Soldiers. The left side of the frame was welded up for some reason. The barrel should have markings under the fore arm they match the serial number in the tang which usually start with a “c”. If it has a patch box it’s a ‘59 model. Top of the barrel should say “new model 59” on the top between the sight and the action.

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Welding? I'm a welder and can't say I can see evidence of welding even with grinding. What are you seeing?
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 4th, 2025 at 3:46pm
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TomKlinger wrote on Oct 4th, 2025 at 3:27pm:
You referred that this was a rifle not a carbine, correct?




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Yes it's a rifle
  
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Reply #8 - Oct 4th, 2025 at 8:11pm
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I’m looking at the pinholes and metal discoloration between the lock screw in the frame and where the stock butts up to the action. It’s your last picture. Also,The barrel should measure 52cal


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Reply #9 - Dec 24th, 2025 at 10:14pm
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TomKlinger wrote on Oct 4th, 2025 at 8:11pm:
I’m looking at the pinholes and metal discoloration between the lock screw in the frame and where the stock butts up to the action. It’s your last picture. Also,The barrel should measure 52cal


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The discoloration looks like old varnish or linseed oil. The action looks like it got filed and scrubbed from some rust pitting. Those are military cartouches on the l/s of the buttstock but they seem more reminiscent of a 50/70 era conversion style of cartouches. That makes me think the buttstock is off a 50/70 conversion era sharps. 
  
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Reply #10 - Dec 25th, 2025 at 11:03am
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Agree with "welded" as the discoloration and voids plus the area around the screw and bevel at rear edge. It is hard to see but the stamp on the Bbl looks like it might be an over stamp of the "L" typically on the side of an 1871 built 1874 .50x2". A picture of the breach would help. Also if there is the "DFC" cartouche in the center of the left side of the butt. In the picture of the rear sight it is hard to tell but it looks like an early model that does not have the enlarged circle cut for clearance of the sight screw.
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Reply #11 - Dec 25th, 2025 at 11:59am
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If you look close at the rifling picture, it looks like you can see a liner….a look at the open breech would tell. See if it has the correct breech with the bouching. That’s the relief where front of the paper cartridge ends. It’s a relief cut that allows gasses to push the chamber sleeve against the block when it’s fired to help seal the breech. 



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