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Making longer brass
Aug 31st, 2025 at 8:45pm
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Attached is a picture that shows another way of making longer brass. In this case for a Soper rifle for 450 x Two and three-quarter. As you can see in the picture, I took a 4570 case turned the rim and drilled and tapped it for 5/16, 24. Then turned up the extension piece and screw it on. Also, help you reduce the load. lol.
  
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Re: Making longer brass
Reply #1 - Aug 31st, 2025 at 9:19pm
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Oooooohhhh that is clever! And if you want to use smokeless the reduced capacity is a positive.  Very interesting
  
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Re: Making longer brass
Reply #2 - Aug 31st, 2025 at 10:07pm
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Thanks Rodney! 
Now my head is spinning thinking about guns I passed up or sold because they might hurt me from the huge case capacity! That's a great idea!
  

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Re: Making longer brass
Reply #3 - Sep 1st, 2025 at 7:55pm
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Brilliant! Smiley
  

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Re: Making longer brass
Reply #4 - Sep 1st, 2025 at 9:21pm
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Puts me in mind of the O'Connor "Steelheads" from the 1980's. The concept was to have brass case bodies with screw-on stainless steel case heads. They came in .30-06 basic straight and (I believe) H&H Magnum basic straight, wherein one formed them to whatever cartridge case one wished within those two cartridge families. Touted as being intended to allow a lot higher pressures without the case heads and primer pockets stretching.

They worked, but weren't cheap. I bought a set of them in a plastic case, a half-dozen maybe. Sized/formed in a .30-06 die, loaded and shot them, then found that the steel heads were inexorably jammed onto the threads of the brass bodies. (Male threads on the perimeter of the brass, female threads in the steel, If I remember correctly.) I reckoned it was too much of a good thing and moved on. Might still have them buried somewhere.

Years later I heard rumblings that perhaps they really were too much of a good thing, that wild-eyed daredevils took them as insurance to be able to load at crazy high velocities with attendant crazy high pressures. They overlooked that brass is intended to fail before the gun fails and some idiots got hurt. I bet that (plus their high price) caused them to fade away before they really took hold.

I love Rodney's approach though since it's apples and oranges to what I described. Who in their right mind would jack pressures up to 70-80K psi in an old straight walled cartridge single shot anyway? 

What brass alloy did you use, Rodney, if I may ask?

  
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Re: Making longer brass
Reply #5 - Sep 1st, 2025 at 9:26pm
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I don’t know what the alloy was. It was just round stock I had on hand. It is what they call half hard, so it machines well and match’s the cartridge case pretty well.
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 1st, 2025 at 10:51pm
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Good idea Rodney!  So does this mean you've had some range time with the Soper?
  

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Reply #7 - Sep 2nd, 2025 at 8:59am
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No, unfortunately not I still have to stock it. I know you realize the obstacle the wood can be sometimes. LOL. I’ve been making progress on the shop. I still have to get the electricity and then get the equipment moved in hopefully by winter will have it all set up. It will be the first insulated shop that I’ve ever had, so should get to spend more time out in working on projects.
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 2nd, 2025 at 8:52pm
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The machining brass is also called 360 Brass. It most often comes in a 'half hard' annealed state.

Rodney, 
Do you drill a center hole in the plug to allow powder to fall in? Just curious if you need to do any trick to ensure the primer provides a good flame to light the powder. 

-Dave
  
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Re: Making longer brass
Reply #9 - Sep 3rd, 2025 at 2:00pm
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Dave
   Yes I drilled it .093 as I plan on using black powder. You could go smaller if you were interested in higher pressure.
  
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