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SBertram Full Member Offline Posts: 105 Joined: Mar 24^th, 2016	Salesmen's sample Aug 20^th, 2025 at 9:31pm	Print Post
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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 623 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #1 - Aug 20^th, 2025 at 9:40pm	Print Post
	Wow! That’s cool!!


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #2 - Aug 20^th, 2025 at 9:45pm	Print Post
	Very unique. Never seen anything like it. Good selling point. JMH


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rifleman Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 310 Joined: Aug 4^th, 2015	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #3 - Aug 20^th, 2025 at 10:16pm	Print Post
	Wow. I will say it again… WOW


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rodneys Oldtimer Offline Posts: 705 Location: Central Oklahoma Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2015	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #4 - Aug 21^st, 2025 at 8:11am	Print Post
	Steve, I agree WOW !!!


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17119 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #5 - Aug 21^st, 2025 at 10:04am	Print Post
	That's just over the top! What a great piece!

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3779 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #6 - Aug 21^st, 2025 at 11:09am	Print Post
	I have seen a very few cutaways- most were much more modern and not nearly as nicely presented. How did you discover this treasure? It must have an interesting tale to tell- thanks for letting us have a look at it.


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SBertram Full Member Offline Posts: 105 Joined: Mar 24^th, 2016	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #7 - Aug 21^st, 2025 at 11:15am	Print Post
	This came out of an amazing collection that I have known about for years, quite a few top flight rifles including some very rare falling blocks rifle were in this collection including my own .303 Gibbs, my .303 Holland/Woodward(currently being restored, pics upon completion), a Fraser rook, a take-down Henry, a Rigby .350 Farquharson and a Jeffery .475#2. Some nice doubles rifles and rare shotguns in this collection as well. It has been a real pleasure finding them homes and a few even ended up with me.


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3779 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #8 - Aug 21^st, 2025 at 1:35pm	Print Post
	thanks for the story of its coming your way. and looking forward to the pictures of that finished rifle someday. stay safe


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Babydriver Full Member Offline Posts: 134 Joined: Mar 22^nd, 2024	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #9 - Aug 21^st, 2025 at 8:13pm	Print Post
	Sort of along these lines. I have a Westley - Richard’s & Co. London Bullard .45. Apparently it was shipped to Westley-Richard’s in the white. Action and barrel British proofed WR serial # 1725. For some time it was thought according to Bullard Firearms, G. Scott Jamieson, that there was only one such, serial #1724. So it really is a salesman’s sample.


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4128 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #10 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 11:57am	Print Post
	This is what the 1869 military model looked like. This one is in 500-450 #2 Musket. The safety slipped in behind the trigger to prevent it being pulled. It has accounted for 2 deer.


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SBertram Full Member Offline Posts: 105 Joined: Mar 24^th, 2016	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #11 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 7:58pm	Print Post
	I have a wonderful 1869 sporting rifle that will soon be hitting the market, also in #2 musket.


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4128 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #12 - Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 11:41am	Print Post
	Those sporters are beautiful rifles, for sure. The 500-450 #2 Musket (also known as the 450 #2 Westley Richards Target) was one of those inherently accurate rounds. Our list friend, Bert, shoots his in matches.


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1834 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #13 - Aug 24^th, 2025 at 7:46pm	Print Post
	Sure wish someone would make a casting kit for these... JMH


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DoubleD Oldtimer Offline Posts: 725 Location: Edmond Joined: Feb 14^th, 2006	Re: Salesmen's sample Reply #14 - Aug 25^th, 2025 at 11:18am	Print Post
	jhm wrote on Aug 24^th, 2025 at 7:46pm: Sure wish someone would make a casting kit for these... JMH One of the problems with these is that they all seem to be to be slightly different, not two are quite the same, except my two. I had a third action only and it was slightly different internally. Castings would be a cool idea however. I have one in 1 1/2 Carbine and one 500 No.2. The carbine is a plain full length military stock in carbine length. I acquired in in South Africa where these guns were referred to as Majuba Martini's. The 500 No. 2 is a beautiful straight stocked Whitworth bore. I would like to talk about about a .450 Musket, but my 401K took a hit this year with two high school graduations and bear hunting trip to Canada next week. But a nice one of these in No.2 Musket and a PG stock, might make consider going into poor house for the rest of the year.

	Douglas, Ret.
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