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Spud Oldtimer Offline Posts: 516 Location: Australia Oz Joined: Feb 24^th, 2005	A W Peterson's Win HW Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 10:00pm	Print Post
	On the cover of the latest SSRJ is a photo of AW Peterson holding a Winchester HW with a straight grip shotgun buttstock. Does anyone know the actual details of this rifle (chambering etc.)? It appears to have a round barrel (No.2?), a standard trigger and a Lyman No. 15 tang sight. I can't make out the front sight. I really like the look of this rifle & plan to make up a copy of it so any details would be a great help. Thanks. Spud


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11837 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #1 - Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 1:59pm	Print Post
	Re-post.

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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 594 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #2 - Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 3:10pm	Print Post
	It reminds Me of a rifle Goergen had a few years ago. That rifle was a 38/72.


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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 623 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #3 - Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 6:49pm	Print Post
	- It has a full round barrel. - shotgun buttstock - looks like a plain trigger - nice case-colored action! - It's hard to make out the front sight ... is it a tall blade or a narrow globe sight? The rear sight is a Lyman No. 15 wind-gauge tang sight. This model tang sight first appeared int he Lyman 1889 catalog.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17117 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #4 - Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 6:51pm	Print Post
	Joe Do... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 6:49pm: - It has a full round barrel. - shotgun buttstock - looks like a plain trigger - nice case-colored action! - It's hard to make out the front sight ... is it a tall blade or a narrow globe sight? The rear sight is a Lyman No. 15 windgauge tang sight. This model tang sight first appeared int he Lyman 1889 catalog. Weren't those the Lyman sights that didn't fold down Joe?

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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 623 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #5 - Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 6:57pm	Print Post
	yes, the stems were fixed and did not fold down.


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Travlin Newbie Offline Posts: 1 Joined: Apr 20^th, 2025	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #6 - Aug 21^st, 2025 at 9:14pm	Print Post
	There is an A.W. Peterson Gun Shop in Tavares Florida it may be under Mount Dora Fl. They have a small museum section about Mr. Peterson.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17117 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #7 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 10:30am	Print Post
	Travlin wrote on Aug 21^st, 2025 at 9:14pm: There is an A.W. Peterson Gun Shop in Tavares Florida it may be under Mount Dora Fl. They have a small museum section about Mr. Peterson. AW Peterson was one of the really great Denver gunsmiths! He and Schoyen both worked at Carlos Gove's Denver Armory until Gove retired and sold the shop to Schoyen. Then Peterson went to work with Schoyen as a partner. Both were Swedish immigrants that were already very capable gunsmiths when Gove hired them, and seems they got along well, although quite different personalities. I have a lot of affection for the work both Schoyen and Peterson accomplished during their lives as custom gun makers. A lot of talent between the two.

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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1361 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #8 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 10:37am	Print Post
	Amen, Brother Vall! Bill Lawrence


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830singleshot Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 443 Location: Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2007	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #9 - Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 3:07pm	Print Post
	If memory serves me, Peterson came to the US (Chicago) as a watchmaker.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2031 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #10 - Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 5:25pm	Print Post
	You can learn more about Peterson in the last two journals to help with your memory, but hopefully not necessary.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17117 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #11 - Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 11:44pm	Print Post
	Not sure how far apart Schoyen and Peterson times were when they immigrated to the US, but both first landed in Chicago, and then migrated out West to Denver. I don't have dates, but I believe John Dutcher said Schoyen arrived in Chicago around 1852 if I recall right? Gove opened his shop in Denver in 1860, so when Schoyen arrived in Denver both were fairly new to Denver. Not sure when AW Peterson arrived in either place?

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moodyholler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 707 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #12 - Sep 7^th, 2025 at 7:53pm	Print Post
	I have an AW Petersen 22 barrel threaded for Ballard. Hope to find donor this year. Had one one 10 years ago Shot very well. Wish I had never let it go. moodyholler


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burntwater Oldtimer Online Posts: 508 Location: Michigan Joined: Feb 5^th, 2018	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #13 - Sep 8^th, 2025 at 2:53pm	Print Post
	Just curious since I've seen a couple of these Petersen rifles and wonder is the pecker headed forearm a distinct design of his ? There are many others similar but not quite the same Rick


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17117 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #14 - Sep 8^th, 2025 at 4:21pm	Print Post
	I wouldn't call it "pecker headed" myself, but the stock maker for Schoyen & Peterson was Henry Simmons, and most (not all) rifles he stocked had that shape on the forearm. My Peterson .22LR doesn't, but it might also have been restocked in recent years as the stocks look like new. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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burntwater Oldtimer Online Posts: 508 Location: Michigan Joined: Feb 5^th, 2018	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #15 - Sep 8^th, 2025 at 8:22pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Sep 8^th, 2025 at 4:21pm: I wouldn't call it "pecker headed" myself, but the stock maker for Schoyen & Peterson was Henry Simmons, and most (not all) rifles he stocked had that shape on the forearm. My Peterson .22LR doesn't, but it might also have been restocked in recent years as the stocks look like new. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) It was just a term I heard amongst some shooters in New England. So if you on the other side haven't heard it then it's no doubt a regional thing. I can however understand it's origin anatomically Rick


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17117 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #16 - Sep 8^th, 2025 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	Never heard it before. Guess we need more East Coast input to see who else has.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 3286 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #17 - Sep 8^th, 2025 at 10:53pm	Print Post
	The forend on my 30 Wesson Ballard is even more phallus shaped. I keep it that way to intimidate my competitors.

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gnoahhh Oldtimer Online Posts: 954 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #18 - Sep 8^th, 2025 at 11:06pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Sep 8^th, 2025 at 9:18pm: Never heard it before. Guess we need more East Coast input to see who else has. News to me!


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2216 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #19 - Sep 9^th, 2025 at 9:57am	Print Post
	It's not that uncommon, when I was teaching my gunmaking class several students decided that was the shape of the schnable going on their forends, one can only guess where that went. And they hadn't conspired before coming up with their ideas either, they claimed it was natural thoughts. Freudian?

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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gnoahhh Oldtimer Online Posts: 954 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #20 - Sep 9^th, 2025 at 10:44am	Print Post
	Mercy. Now I'll never look at a schnabel forearm tip the same again. Gives me an idea for a palm grip though....


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2216 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #21 - Sep 9^th, 2025 at 11:26am	Print Post
	gnoahhh wrote on Sep 9^th, 2025 at 10:44am: Mercy. Now I'll never look at a schnabel forearm tip the same again. Gives me an idea for a palm grip though.... They went there also.

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2216 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #22 - Sep 9^th, 2025 at 11:46am	Print Post
	My one Peterson Ballard has a plain real simple schnable on it. (kind of a lame photo of it)

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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burntwater Oldtimer Online Posts: 508 Location: Michigan Joined: Feb 5^th, 2018	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #23 - Sep 9^th, 2025 at 1:06pm	Print Post
	I really didn't think my remark would take off like this. Val provided the info I was interested in so I figured that was it. Wrong. It's always been the case in my life where moving around to different locations the locals have names and terms for things an outsider must eventually learn to sound like he belongs. Finest Kind Rick
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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2216 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #24 - Sep 9^th, 2025 at 1:33pm	Print Post
	I apologize to the OP for the tangent this post took.

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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burntwater Oldtimer Online Posts: 508 Location: Michigan Joined: Feb 5^th, 2018	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #25 - Sep 9^th, 2025 at 4:40pm	Print Post
	I guess I should also apologize too but my question was intended to be legitimate curiosity Rick


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Spud Oldtimer Offline Posts: 516 Location: Australia Oz Joined: Feb 24^th, 2005	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #26 - Sep 9^th, 2025 at 7:23pm	Print Post
	No worries boys....it's been entertaining . Work on my copy of the rifle in the original photo is progressing well. I located a HW with a straight shotgun butt & a #2 round barrel that was shot out & begging for a reline. Just have to figure out what cartridge to go with. Spud


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2216 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #27 - Sep 9^th, 2025 at 10:17pm	Print Post
	pictures?

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 3286 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #28 - Sep 9^th, 2025 at 10:58pm	Print Post
	Spud, There are some barrel blanks on eBay in 50 BMG. I will make you a free breech seater if you put one on your highwall

	ASSRA # 11318 I have finally come to realize that I will never be old enough to know better.
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guilty gil Participating Member Online Posts: 43 Location: Livingston mt. Joined: Feb 5^th, 2021	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #29 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 7:20am	Print Post
	Black, I built a highwall with casting set (8620 steel) using a 50 cal machine gun barrel cut to 30" cut full octagon ( 1.375" at reciever) then chambered to 510 nitro express (50-140 case). Rifle weighed 20 lbs. Kicked like he'll with 500 grain bullet around 2400 fps. Don't shoot it a lot!


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11837 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #30 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 2:36pm	Print Post
	My shootin buddies arm after the one time the butt plate missed his shoulder pad. 50-90 -90gr Swiss 1 1/2 under a 650 gr bullet. His scores went way down after the hit.

	A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
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burntwater Oldtimer Online Posts: 508 Location: Michigan Joined: Feb 5^th, 2018	Re: A W Peterson's Win HW Reply #31 - Sep 11^th, 2025 at 8:07pm	Print Post
	Bruise is just starting to turn yellow and on the biceps he'll be right sore for a while. Rick


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