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40 Caliber question
Jul 31st, 2025 at 9:55am
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If you were going to rebarrel a Sharps Borchardt in 40 caliber for hunting what version would you go with. Mule deer, elk and possibly feral pigs would be the main quarry. Components and availability would be a concern. So many options, and so many issues with reloading equipment and supplies.
  
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Re: 40 Caliber question
Reply #1 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 11:06am
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Curt, I would lean toward the 40-65 wcf  as brass and dies are easily obtainable. Using smokeless would allow velocities to reach out and still hit with authority. I would also consider the 38/56 wcf as recoil is even less. I have taken a mule deer with the 38/56 RB that you installed a limit screw on the extractor and plan on using it for an elk hunt soon.  I am getting 2100 fps with a jacketed Horn day 270 gr  round nose. My 40-70 SS Hepburn kicks like a mule with 360 yr PP bullets at 1800 fps but it would be a good choice if brass was more available and dies were more standardized. It is really pleasant to shoot at 1300 fps.  The 40-50 would be my choice over the longer 40-70 and 30-40 brass is readily available. The case diameter is less than the 40/70 BN so would result in less thrust.  My Borchard 30/40 Krag Improved that you built has killed elk with the 200 gr  Nosler  Partition and recoil is nothing even with the light barrel you installed. The older I get the less I like recoil!  Tom
  
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Re: 40 Caliber question
Reply #2 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 2:50pm
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I'll second .40-65 Win.! It's cheap to buy brass, and dies, and very versatile cartridge. I load lightweight 300 grain bullets for 200 yds. or less, and heavy 410 grain bullets for 1000 yds.
This is one of my favorite old hyphenated cartridges and I've taken several mule deer with a few of my old singleshots in .40-65 also.
  

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Reply #3 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 7:06pm
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Thanks for the responses. The 40-65 has always been a great choice and fills most requirements. A friend was asking my advise, I suggested the 40-65 or 40-60 Maynard as cases for the Maynard are easy to form. I suggested he contact Borchardt Rifle for his project. The certainly have a lot of experience working on the Borchardt.
  
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Re: 40 Caliber question
Reply #4 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 7:21pm
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I have both the 40-65 and the 40-60 Maynard but it would be hard to beat the availability of brass and dies with the 40-65. If the Borchardt action was originally for a 45-70 and still has the extractor that would be another factor in favor of the 40-65.
  
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Re: 40 Caliber question
Reply #5 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 11:29pm
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The .40-60 Maynard is a slight bit more accurate but the cases and dies for the .40-65 WCF is definitely much more available. 
It is getting much more difficult to find .30-40 Krag cases to make into .40-60 Maynard.
  
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Re: 40 Caliber question
Reply #6 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 9:28am
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Schuetzendave wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 11:29pm:
The .40-60 Maynard is a slight bit more accurate but the cases and dies for the .40-65 WCF is definitely much more available. 
It is getting much more difficult to find .30-40 Krag cases to make into .40-60 Maynard.


I use Krag or .303 British cases to form my .40-50SS cases and never had any trouble finding either in both new or once fired cases. If you use Krag then the .303 British should also work. Duck Creek Sportting Goods has brand new .303 for under $44 per 50 pcs. in stock.
  

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Re: 40 Caliber question
Reply #7 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 8:01pm
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I did one in 38-72. Good round except for the high cost of brass and dies. Have to make them from 405 win and we all know how pricey that stuff is now. I have a small fortune in components but I have them now and the brass should last a good long time. 



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Re: 40 Caliber question
Reply #8 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 9:54pm
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The .303 British end up too short to make .40-60 Maynard cases so I tried a case stretcher.
Better to use .30-40 Krag cases that makes .40-60 Maynard cases that are long enough and don't have as much wall thickness variations from stretching them a .100".
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 3rd, 2025 at 10:42am
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I used 40-65 for many years in competition but for hunting I liked the 40-90 BN.
  
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