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Chamber specs.
Jul 29th, 2025 at 11:14am
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When ordering a rifle set up for breechseating,is the chamber and throat different than when you shoot fixed ammunition. Thinking of one and ask because the bullet is set in front of the chamber when breech seating so would have to do some jumping if shot with fixed ammo.
Would this detrimental to accuracy?
I have a note into cpa but am trying to forge ahead.
  

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Reply #1 - Jul 29th, 2025 at 11:34am
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I'd just get the regular chamber to begin unless you have a very specific bullet already that you wish to use. It can readily be shot breech seated that way and if you want to modify it at some future point you can do so.
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 29th, 2025 at 12:32pm
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calledflyer wrote on Jul 29th, 2025 at 11:34am:
I'd just get the regular chamber to begin unless you have a very specific bullet already that you wish to use. It can readily be shot breech seated that way and if you want to modify it at some future point you can do so.

My question was are they different. I can see the throat would be but is the chamber ?
I understand what you are saying. 
  

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Reply #3 - Jul 29th, 2025 at 12:46pm
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Often a standard chamber throat is “opened up” with a taper added with a throating reamer.  It most likely would be detrimental for fixed ammo accuracy but allows for the use of non tapered bullets.  CPA sells moulds for tapered bullets that work well in standard throats.
  

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Re: Chamber specs.
Reply #4 - Jul 29th, 2025 at 1:52pm
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Differences in chamber and/or throat specifications really have no effect regarding breech seating. 
The accuracy from breech seating comes from fully inserting the bullet so the bullet base is properly engraved by the rifling; which is well past the throat.
Some will dicker that the angle of the throat is important for better insertion of the bullet.
My experience is the most important factor for proper bullet insertion for accuracy from breech seating is having a breech seater that pushes the bullet into the bore (perfectly inline with the bore) and is perfectly aligned (not slightly angled sideways).
Also the breech seater must be adjustable to push the bullet into properly seat the bullet so the base is properly sealed so gases cannot cut around the side, to provide a consistent chamber volume behind the bullet so you always have consistent pressures.
If your breech seater pushes the bullet in slightly off angle the tapered throat will not center it. 
It will result in one side of the lands cutting into the bullet more than the other side which means it ends up out of alignment - and really impacts you accuracy.
So the priority is a good seater that pushes the bullet in perfect alignement.
Comaprison of one that did and one that did not resulted in a  6 points difference per ASSRA target when I did long term testing.
  
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Re: Chamber specs.
Reply #5 - Jul 29th, 2025 at 3:01pm
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The lead into the rifling can be opened up, or more gradual angle reamed into it, but I've not found any reason to need it myself. What is more important for a breech seating operation is stepped lands, or what we call a tapered bullet. The base band seals, and the stepped smaller bands make breech seating much easier to do.
If you did have a chamber cut specifically to help to breech seat you'll probably need to seat fixed bullets farther out to engage the rifling well.
  

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Reply #6 - Jul 30th, 2025 at 12:45pm
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With BSing, the area ahead of the case, won't make much difference, other that what force it takes to BS. To much force, will distort the bullet. The base band needs to be at least .001 over groove dia. But, if your shooting fixed ammo, it can make all the difference in the world!

The std 32/40, has only a 30° angle ahead of the case, nothing else. A tapered or bore riding bullet, such as the Hudson bullets will align themselves in that type throat but, you'll have a lot of trouble getting a cylindrical bullet aligned in that throat.

For fixed ammo, you need a long taper, threw the lands to do that and a freebore also helps. You would size the bullet to fit .001 over the freebore or size it .001+ over  the groove diameter w/o the freebore.
  

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