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Re: Best book on the Ballard rifles?
Reply #30 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 9:26pm
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Wayne,

I typed a long response, but it disappeared into a puff of electrons, so this is the abbreviated version.  I think of you as a thoughtful, thorough researcher, so I’ll share what I know about Ballards in print.  The Dutcher book, as you have been informed and discovered already for yourself , is the undisputed leader in the field.  Not perfect but way ahead of the only other two I am aware of specifically and completely devoted to Ballards. 

These others will probably seem redundant, but for the sake of completeness, I’ll mention both of them.  The George Layman book, of which you’ve already heard, is fairly easily found and although it has some serious shortcomings, is probably worth owning or at least perusing.  It does a fair job of enumerating the features of the various models.

Possibly the earliest “complete” treatment of Ballards was actually a listing and discussion of one man’s collection. The Milwaukee Museum’s report of the Henry J. Nunnemacher Collection was done by Eldon Wolfe in the ‘30s(?) and although original copies turn up from time, there have been two additional printings.  I find this book to be useful, and until Dutcher it was the definitive source. There is a copy of the 2nd printing on fleaBay right now for a “Buy it Now” of $35.99 OBO with free shipping.  Reference;

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Our friend Vall knows a lot more about Ballards than I ever will, but I’ve used these three books to hold my own among the mere mortals of the Ballard World.  Drop me a PM if I can be of more help.

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Reply #31 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 10:10pm
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As a side note, John was able to observe and handle the Milwaukee Museum collection and correct it's numerous faults. It was my understanding that those corrections were noted by the museum. I would have to ask John if there was a reprint of the book with those corrections included. I made note of them in my early copy, although I have not seen or used it since John's book went to the printer. No question it is the "Great American Book" on the subject.
  

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Reply #32 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 10:36pm
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Many of the rifles in the Nunnemacher collection were put together by him to make up rifles to represent the models made by Marlin. I believe that he used catalogue descriptions to build from. As far as I know he was the first tell collector of Ballards, but they were only part of his vast collection of firearms.
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Reply #33 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 10:55pm
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Very true, but John's interest was primarily Ballard, but I would bet his eyes wandered a bit.
  

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Reply #34 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 12:33am
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Green_Frog wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 9:26pm:
Wayne,

I typed a long response, but it disappeared into a puff of electrons, so this is the abbreviated version.  I think of you as a thoughtful, thorough researcher, so I’ll share what I know about Ballards in print.  The Dutcher book, as you have been informed and discovered already for yourself , is the undisputed leader in the field.  Not perfect but way ahead of the only other two I am aware of specifically and completely devoted to Ballards. 

These others will probably seem redundant, but for the sake of completeness, I’ll mention both of them.  The George Layman book, of which you’ve already heard, is fairly easily found and although it has some serious shortcomings, is probably worth owning or at least perusing.  It does a fair job of enumerating the features of the various models.

Possibly the earliest “complete” treatment of Ballards was actually a listing and discussion of one man’s collection. The Milwaukee Museum’s report of the Henry J. Nunnemacher Collection was done by Eldon Wolfe in the ‘30s(?) and although original copies turn up from time, there have been two additional printings.  I find this book to be useful, and until Dutcher it was the definitive source. There is a copy of the 2nd printing on fleaBay right now for a “Buy it Now” of $35.99 OBO with free shipping.  Reference;

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Our friend Vall knows a lot more about Ballards than I ever will, but I’ve used these three books to hold my own among the mere mortals of the Ballard World.  Drop me a PM if I can be of more help.

Best regards,
Charlie the Frog


Green_Frog

Thanks for the additional details.  I already have George Lyman's book & both Dutcher's & Eldon Wolfe's books are on the way.

In a week or two I should know more than marlinguy.  Roll Eyes Grin.  Just kidding Vall.  I need all the help I can get.

Wayne
  

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Reply #35 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 12:49am
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rkba2nd wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 5:45pm:
John has run a second printing some years ago, not anticipating it would be recognized as the great book that it is. The current books on Sharp's rifles are runner ups, but no cigar. Wise to obtain copies, if one has interest, before they are gone as well. I obtained Grant's book when it was the only good book available, and then his others as time went on. Like Marlinguy noted, I too obtained a second copy as the first was rapidly falling apart. Soon others would become available which was the beginning of another collection addiction. Books.


After reading the above comments, I may have to order a bunch of my books on the Browning BPCR rifles from the print-on-demand company I use.  Then announce that the book is no longer in print & remove the current listings on Amazon, eBay & GunBroker.  After waiting for a good bit of time, relist it on some of the auction sites.  Wink The problem is I don't know if I have enough years left to reap the rewards.  Cry

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Reply #36 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 9:17am
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rkba2nd wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 10:55pm:
Very true, but John's interest was primarily Ballard, but I would bet his eyes wandered a bit.


John owned a lot more than Ballard rifles, and even recently has purchased others beyond Ballard rifles. He was of course a big fan of anything George Schoyen made, and still is.
  

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Reply #37 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 10:05am
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Whene I frist meet John he told me he started to on a book of single shots but it just turned into a book about Ballards
  
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Reply #38 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:33am
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KensBullard wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 10:05am:
Whene I frist meet John he told me he started to on a book of single shots but it just turned into a book about Ballards


Back about 25 years ago I first met John at the Denver show and he was sitting at his table with a stack of papers and pictures sitting on the floor that was taller than the table top by at least a foot! It was all Ballard related paperwork and images, and he said it was going to become a Ballard book. I asked him how all that material was going to become one book, and he said that was his current problem to go through it all and decide what would sorted into just one book. I think he could have made at least 3 books, but might not have been the quality of the one he ended up assembling.
  

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Re: Best book on the Ballard rifles?
Reply #39 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 7:39pm
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I have known John for over fifty years, and long before that, he has always had interest in any firearm, but in particular, single shot rifles, and a love affair with Ballard rifles. Hence the book. He has gathered an incredible amount of Stevens information, but because of that intense interest, chose Ballard rifles for His book. Thankfully.
  

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